On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Al Viro wrote: > > Um... Here it would happen only on attempt to return an entry for file > that really has an inumber not fitting into the field; what would you > do in such case? You'd truncate the inode number. What's the big deal? Inode numbers aren't that important - they're just about the _least_ important part of the data returned for a readdir. Sure, truncating the inode number may confuse some programs like old-style /bin/pwd, but the thing is, we effectively _already_ do that by generating essentially random numbers for filesystems that don't have UNIX-style inode numbers anyway, so what's the big deal really? > open() on a huge file is a different story, since you would get a valid > opened file and that'd be it; the logics in case of open() is, IIRC, "I > guess your binary is old, so it'll probably do other things that would > really have to trigger -EOVERFLOW; better bail out right now". The thing is, the "probably" is likely "probably not". There's a lot of things that work quite well. Sure, if you lseek() you get confused. If you do "stat()" and then mmap(), you'll get confused. But a lot of programs really do just read/write. Or use llseek(), in fact. O_LARGEFILE is actually a later thing tan llseek() was. So the problem with EOVERFLOW is that it says that programs shouldn't do anything at all because they _may_ do bad things. And don't get me wrong - I think EOVERFLOW was (and is) actually a good thing for the _transition_ period. Exactly because it breaks programs in obvious ways, and early. It's good to be annoying in order to find problems early and fix them. But I also think that we're not in a transition period any more, and as a result the annoyance part is just annoying an doesn't help find and fix problems any more, it just makes legacy binaries not work even if they could otherwise work fine (and _maybe_ have problems). So something that made sense five years ago may not make sense any more, is what I'm saying. These days, if somebody runs legacy binaries, they do it because of archeology reasons or similar.. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html