On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 11:41:45AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote: > And, for everyone who gave us feedback in the Plumbers surveys that co- > locating with a big conference is *not* what you want because of > various problems like hallway track disruptions due to other conference > traffic and simply the difficulty of finding people, the current model > under consideration is one conference organization (the LF) but two > separate venues, sort of like OpenStack used to do for their big > conference and design summit to minimize disruption and increase > developer focus. Ths is what I tried to push last year, which was to colocate LSF/MM and KS/MS in Austin, at the same time as OSS 2020, but in a separate hotel so we didn't have to deal with the cast of thousands which go to OSS. I also liked it because OSS 2020 is in June, so it would have been from a spacing perspective it would have been an easy way to start moving MS/KS from the second half of the year into first half of the year. But some folks pointed out (not without reason), that Palm Springs was a lot more fun than Austin, and OSS still has a somewhat bad reputation of having some really trashy talks, and so even in separate venue, there were people who really didn't like the idea. Because of this, when the LF (in December 2019) suggested moving the MS/KS to Austin as part of OSS, I didn't think we would have critical mass to overcome the reputation of talks like "#OSSummit: Seven Properties of Highly Secure IoT." and so I told Angela, "No, we really can't do this without something like LSF/MM to make sure we have critical mass for a second Linux systems conference." - Ted
