On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 06:56:03PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 09:44:19AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote: > > > I am very much against this. There is a reason why we don't support > > > changes of ops vectors at runtime anywhere else, because it is > > > horribly complicated and impossible to get right. IFF we ever want > > > to change the DAX vs non-DAX mode (which I'm still not sold on) the > > > right way is to just add a few simple conditionals and merge the > > > aops, which is much easier to reason about, and less costly in overall > > > overhead. > > > > *cough* > > > > That's exactly what the original code did. And it was broken > > because page faults call multiple aops that are dependent on the > > result of the previous aop calls setting up the state correctly for > > the latter calls. And when S_DAX changes between those calls, shit > > breaks. > > No, the original code was broken because it didn't serialize between > DAX and buffer access. > > Take a step back and look where the problems are, and they are not > mostly with the aops. In fact the only aop useful for DAX is > is ->writepages, and how it uses ->writepages is actually a bit of > an abuse of that interface. The races are all through the fops, too, which is one of the reasons Darrick mentioned we should probably move this up to file ops level... > So what we really need it just a way to prevent switching the flag > when a file is mapped, That's not sufficient. We also have to prevent the file from being mapped *while we are switching*. Nothing in the mmap() path actually serialises against filesystem operations, and the initial behavioural checks in the page fault path are similarly unserialised against changing the S_DAX flag. e.g. there's a race against ->mmap() with switching the the S_DAX flag. In xfs_file_mmap(): file_accessed(file); vma->vm_ops = &xfs_file_vm_ops; if (IS_DAX(inode)) vma->vm_flags |= VM_HUGEPAGE; So if this runs while a switch from true to false is occurring, we've got a non-dax VMA with huge pages enabled, and the non-dax page fault path doesn't support this. If we are really lucky, we'll have IS_DAX() set just long enough to get through this check in xfs_filemap_huge_fault(): if (!IS_DAX(file_inode(vmf->vma->vm_file))) return VM_FAULT_FALLBACK; and then we'll get into __xfs_filemap_fault() and block on the MMAPLOCK. When we actually get that lock, S_DAX will now be false and we have a huge page fault running through a path (page cache IO) that doesn't support huge pages... This is the sort of landmine switching S_DAX without serialisation causes. The methods themselves look sane, but it's cross-method dependencies for a stable S_DAX flag that is the real problem. Yes, we can probably fix this by adding XFS_MMAPLOCK_SHARED here, but means every filesystem has to solve the same race conditions itself. That's hard to get right and easy to get wrong. If the VFS/mm subsystem provides the infrastructure needed to use this functionality safely, then that is hard for filesystem developers to get wrong..... > and in the normal read/write path ensure the > flag can't be switch while I/O is going on, which could either be > done by ensuring it is only switched under i_rwsem or equivalent > protection, or by setting the DAX flag once in the iocb similar to > IOCB_DIRECT. The iocb path is not the problem - that's entirely serialised against S_DAX changes by the i_rwsem. The problem is that we have no equivalent filesystem level serialisation for the entire mmap/page fault path, and it checks S_DAX all over the place. It's basically the same limitation that we have with mmap vs direct IO - we can't lock out mmap when we do direct IO, so we cannot guarantee coherency between the two. Similar here - we cannot lockout mmap in any sane way, so we cannot guarantee coherency between mmap and changing the S_DAX flag. That's the underlying problem we need to solve here. /me wonders if the best thing to do is to add a ->fault callout to tell the filesystem to lock/unlock the inode right up at the top of the page fault path, outside even the mmap_sem. That means all the methods that the page fault calls are protected against S_DAX changes, and it gives us a low cost method of serialising page faults against DIO (e.g. via inode_dio_wait()).... > And they easiest way to get all this done is as a first step to > just allowing switching the flag when no blocks are allocated at > all, similar to how the rt flag works. False equivalence - it is not similar because the RT flag changes and their associated state checks are *already fully serialised* by the XFS_ILOCK_EXCL. S_DAX accesses have no such serialisation, and that's the problem we need to solve... In reality, I don't really care how we solve this problem, but we've been down the path you are suggesting at least twice before and each time we've ended up in a "that doesn't work" corner and had to persue other solutions. I don't like going around in circles. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx