Here is one last point that confuses me so please explain what I have misunderstood: - The XFS bmap api ALWAYS does SYNC, which is why XFS tools are coded that way to expect it. - XFS could implement fiemap the same way to always sync. - And the only use in XFS for NO-SYNC is that Dave might like to sometime see unmodified extent data. Sounds like a good reason to confuse users with the FIEMAP_FLAG_SYNC and make other filesystems do extra work doesn't it? jim -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html