On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 04:48:29PM +0000, David Howells wrote: > Again with regard to my rewrite of fscache and cachefiles: > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/dhowells/linux-fs.git/log/?h=fscache-iter > > I've got rid of my use of bmap()! Hooray! > > However, I'm informed that I can't trust the extent map of a backing file to > tell me accurately whether content exists in a file because: > > (a) Not-quite-contiguous extents may be joined by insertion of blocks of > zeros by the filesystem optimising itself. This would give me a false > positive when trying to detect the presence of data. > > (b) Blocks of zeros that I write into the file may get punched out by > filesystem optimisation since a read back would be expected to read zeros > there anyway, provided it's below the EOF. This would give me a false > negative. The whole idea of an out of band interface is going to be racy and suffer from implementation loss. I think what you want is something similar to the NFSv4.2 READ_PLUS operation - give me that if there is any and otherwise tell me that there is a hole. I think this could be a new RWF_NOHOLE or similar flag, just how to return the hole size would be a little awkward. Maybe return a specific negative error code (ENODATA?) and advance the iov anyway.