Re: [PATCH 0/2] New zonefs file system

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On 2019/12/17 21:34, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
> On 16.12.19 10:35, Carlos Maiolino wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>>> Just curious: what's the exact definition of "zoned" here ?
>>> Something like partitions ?
>>
>> Zones inside a SMR HDD.
> 
> Oh, I wasn't aware that those things are exposed to the host at all.
> Are you dealing with host-managed SMR-HDDs ?

Yes. The host-managed models of SMR drives have become the de-facto
standard for enterprise applications because of their more predictable
performance compared to host-aware models.

Many USB external disks these days also use SMR, but drive-managed
models. These are regular block devices from the interface point of
view: the host does not and cannot see the "zones" of the disk. SMR
constraints are hidden by the device firmware.

> 
>> On a SMR HDD, each zone can only be written sequentially, due to physics
>> constraints. I won't post any link with references because I think majordomo
>> will spam my email if I do, but do a google search of something like 'SMR HDD
>> zones' and you'll get a better idea
> 
> Reminds me on classic CDRs or tapes. Why not dealing them similarily ?

Because of the performance difference. Excluding any software/use
difference (i.e. GC overhead if needed), from a purely IO perspective,
SMR host-managed disks are as fast as regular disks and can handle
multiple streams simultaneously at high queue depth for better
throughput (think video surveillance applications or video streaming).
That is not the case for CDs or tapes.

The performance difference with CDs and tapes, leading to different
possible workloads and usage patterns, is even more pronounced with
SSDs. In the end, only the write pattern looks similar with CDs and
Tapes. Everything else is the same as a regular block device.

> 
> 
> --mtx
> 
> ---
> Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
> Free software and Linux embedded engineering
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