Please can you UNSUBSCRIBE me from this list? thx Le 13/11/2019 à 13:52, Al Viro a écrit : > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 09:01:36AM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote: >>> - if (d_really_is_negative(lower_dentry)) { >>> + /* >>> + * negative dentry can go positive under us here - its parent is not >>> + * locked. That's OK and that could happen just as we return from >>> + * ecryptfs_lookup() anyway. Just need to be careful and fetch >>> + * ->d_inode only once - it's not stable here. >>> + */ >>> + lower_inode = READ_ONCE(lower_dentry->d_inode); >>> + >>> + if (!lower_inode) { >>> /* We want to add because we couldn't find in lower */ >>> d_add(dentry, NULL); >>> return NULL; >> Sigh! >> >> Open coding a human readable macro to solve a subtle lookup race. >> That doesn't sound like a scalable solution. >> I have a feeling this is not the last patch we will be seeing along >> those lines. >> >> Seeing that developers already confused about when they should use >> d_really_is_negative() over d_is_negative() [1] and we probably >> don't want to add d_really_really_is_negative(), how about >> applying that READ_ONCE into d_really_is_negative() and >> re-purpose it as a macro to be used when races with lookup are >> a concern? > Would you care to explain what that "fix" would've achieved here, > considering the fact that barriers are no-ops on UP and this is > *NOT* an SMP race? > > And it's very much present on UP - we have > fetch ->d_inode into local variable > do blocking allocation > check if ->d_inode is NULL now > if it is not, use the value in local variable and expect it to be non-NULL > > That's not a case of missing barriers. At all. And no redefinition of > d_really_is_negative() is going to help - it can't retroactively affect > the value explicitly fetched into a local variable some time prior to > that. > > There are other patches dealing with ->d_inode accesses, but they are > generally not along the same lines. The problem is rarely the same... >