On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:56 PM Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Any atomicity that depends on journal commits cannot be considered to > have atomicity in a boot context, because bootloaders don't do journal > replay. It's completely ignored. It depends on the bootloader. If you care about atomicity you need to handle the journal. There are also filesystems which *require* the journal to be handled. In that case you can still replay to memory. And yes, filesystem implementations in many bootloaders are in beyond shameful state. > If a journal is present, is it appropriate to consider it a separate > and optional part of the file system? No. This is filesystem specific. -- Thanks, //richard