Hi tglx, >Changing the return value to 1 would be just a cosmetic workaround. Agreed. Returning 1 is incorrect as It causes the next read() to return before the interval time passed. >So I rather change the documentation (this applies only to CLOCK_REALTIME >and CLOCK_REALTIME_ALARM) and explain the rationale. When timerfd_read() returns 0, hrtimer_forward() doesn't change expiry time, So, instead of modifying the man page, can we call timerfd_read() functionality once again from kernel. For example:- timerfd_read_wrapper() { do { ret = timerfd_read(...); } while (ret == 0); } Let us know whether you see any problem in handling this race in kernel. Regards, Arul On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 9:04 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Arul, > > On Thu, 5 Sep 2019, Arul Jeniston wrote: > > When we adjust the date setting using date command we observed > > 'timerfd_read()' on CLOCK_REALTIME (TFD_TIMER_ABSTIME flag is set) > > returns 0. > > we don't see any hardware influence here and we are able to recreate > > it consistently. Is it expected? if yes, isn't it something to be > > documented in timerfd read() man page? > > It's expected, yes. Simply because it hits the following condition: > > armtimer(T1) > > settime(T1 + X) --> causes timer to fire > > wakeup reader > settime(T0) > > read number of intervals: 0 > > i.e. timer did not expire > > Changing the return value to 1 would be just a cosmetic workaround. We > could also jump back and wait again. But that's all not consistent because > > armtimer(T1) > > settime(T1 + X) --> causes timer to fire > > wakeup reader > > read number of intervals: 1 > settime(T0) > > user space reads time and figures that > the returned tick is bogus. > > So I rather change the documentation (this applies only to CLOCK_REALTIME > and CLOCK_REALTIME_ALARM) and explain the rationale. > > For applications which care about notifications when the time was set, > timerfd_settime() provides TFD_TIMER_CANCEL_ON_SET which causes the timer > to be canceled when time is set and returns -ECANCELED from the > read. That's unambiguous. > > Thanks, > > tglx