Re: ext4 fsck vs. kernel recovery policy

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On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 03:29:09PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> On 8/27/19 2:10 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> > hey,
> >   I'm curious if there's a policy about what types of unclean
> > shutdowns 'e2fsck -p' can recover, vs. what the kernel will
> > automatically recover on mount. We're seeing that unclean shutdowns w/
> > data=journal,journal_csum frequently result in invalid checksums that
> > causes the kernel to abort recovery, while 'e2fsck -p' resolves the
> > issue non-interactively.
> > 
> > Driver for this question is that some Ubuntu installs set fstab's
> > passno=0 for the root fs - which I'm told is based on the assumption
> > that both kernel & e2fsck -p have parity when it comes to automatic
> > recovery - that's obviously does not appear to be the case - but I
> > wanted to confirm whether or not that is by design.
> > 
> >   -dann
> 
> Ted or others more involved w/ ext4 will speak w/ authority but it's my
> understanding that log replay, whether done by userspace or by the kernel,
> should always return the filesystem to a consistent state.  If that's not
> the case, scripting things so that you grab a qcow-format e2image prior
> to fsck so that you can share the problematic image with developers may
> help.

Thanks Eric. I captured an image in case it's useful:

  https://people.canonical.com/~dannf/md2.e2ic.qcow2

  -dann


> 
> (In XFS land, a large portion of the unreplayable logs we see are the
> result of storage that didn't /actually/ persist IOs that it claimed were
> persisted prior to the crash/poweroff.)
> 
> -Eric



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