Hi, Recently I have been exploring Advanced Format (4K sector size) and high capacity aspects of UDF 2.01 support in Linux and Windows 10. I thought it might be helpful to summarize my findings. The good news is that I did not see any bugs in the Linux ecosystem (kernel driver + mkudffs). The not-so-good news is that Windows has some issues that affect interoperability. One of my goals in posting this is to open a discussion on whether changes should be made in the Linux UDF ecosystem to accommodate these quirks. My test setup includes the following software components: * mkudffs 1.3 and 2.0 * kernel 4.15.0-43 and 4.15.0-52 * Windows 10 1803 17134.829 * chkdsk 10.0.17134.1 * udfs.sys 10.0.17134.648 ISSUE 1: Inability of the Linux UDF driver to mount 4K-sector media formatted by Windows. This is because the Windows ecosystem mishandles the ECMA-167 corner case that requires Volume Recognition Sequence components to be placed at 4K intervals on 4K-sector media, instead of the 2K intervals required with smaller sectors. The Linux UDF driver emits the following when presented with Windows-formatted media: UDF-fs: warning (device sdc1): udf_load_vrs: No VRS found UDF-fs: Scanning with blocksize 4096 failed A hex dump of the VRS written by the Windows 10 'format' utility yields this: 0000: 00 42 45 41 30 31 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .BEA01.......... 0800: 00 4e 53 52 30 33 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .NSR03.......... 1000: 00 54 45 41 30 31 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .TEA01.......... We may want to consider tweaking the kernel UDF driver to tolerate this quirk; if so a question is whether that should be done automatically, only in response to a mount option or module parameter, or only with some subsequent confirmation that the medium was formatted by Windows. ISSUE 2: Inability of Windows chkdsk to analyze 4K-sector media formatted by mkudffs. This is another aspect of Windows' VRS corner case bug. Formatting by mkudffs places the VRS components at the proper 4K intervals. But the chkdsk utility looks for components at 2K intervals. Not finding a component at byte offset 2048, chkdsk decides that the media is RAW and cannot be checked. Note that this bug affects chkdsk only; udfs.sys *does* recognize mkudffs- formatted 4K-sector media and is able to mount it. It would be possible to work around this by tweaking mkudffs to insert dummy BOOT2 components in between the BEA/NSR/TEA: 0000: 00 42 45 41 30 31 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .BEA01.......... 0800: 00 42 4f 4f 54 32 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .BOOT2.......... 1000: 00 4e 53 52 30 33 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .NSR03.......... 1800: 00 42 4f 4f 54 32 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .BOOT2.......... 2000: 00 54 45 41 30 31 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .TEA01.......... That would introduce a slight ECMA-167 nonconformity, but Linux does not object and Windows actually performs better. I would have to tweak udffsck though since I believe this could confuse its automatic detection of medium block size. ISSUE 3: Inability of the Windows UDF driver to mount media read-write when a maximally-sized space bitmap descriptor is present I suspect this is an off-by-one error in udfs.sys relating to the maximum number of blocks a space bitmap descriptor can occupy. The bug causes UDF partitions that are close to 2 TiB (512-sector media) or 16 TiB (4K-sector media) to be mounted read-only, with no user-visible indication as to why. It would be possible for mkudffs to print a warning when formatting results in a space bitmap that occupies the maximum number of blocks. ISSUE 4: chkdsk reports spurious errors when space bitmap descriptor exceeds 32 MiB Some permutations of this: * "Correcting errors in Space Bitmap Descriptor at block 0" (with no prior mention of any errors) * "Space Bitmap Descriptor at block 32 is corrupt or unreadable" This is actually one of the more crippling issues if one values Windows' ability to check and repair UDF errors. A limit of 32 MiB on the space bitmap implies a UDF partition size of at most 137 GB (not GiB) with 512-sector media or at most 1099 GB with 4K-sector media. Again, the most I think we could do is code mkudffs to warn of this possibility. But a message that clearly conveys the issue and what should be done to avoid it could be a little tricky to construct. Obviously the best solution would be for the Windows bugs to get fixed. If anyone reading this can convey these details into the Microsoft silo, that would be great. Regards, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Steven J. Magnani "I claim this network for MARS! www.digidescorp.com Earthling, return my space modulator!" #include <standard.disclaimer>