On Wed, 2019-02-13 at 20:52 +0100, Greg KH wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 02:25:12PM -0500, Sasha Levin wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:18:03AM +0100, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:01:25AM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote: > > > > Best effort testing in timely manner is good, but a good way to > > > > improve confidence in stable kernel releases is a publicly > > > > available list of tests that the release went through. > > > > > > We have that, you aren't noticing them... > > > > This is one of the biggest things I want to address: there is a > > disconnect between the stable kernel testing story and the tests > > the fs/ and mm/ folks expect to see here. > > > > On one had, the stable kernel folks see these kernels go through > > entire suites of testing by multiple individuals and organizations, > > receiving way more coverage than any of Linus's releases. > > > > On the other hand, things like LTP and selftests tend to barely > > scratch the surface of our mm/ and fs/ code, and the maintainers of > > these subsystems do not see LTP-like suites as something that adds > > significant value and ignore them. Instead, they have a > > (convoluted) set of testing they do with different tools and > > configurations that qualifies their code as being "tested". > > > > So really, it sounds like a low hanging fruit: we don't really need > > to write much more testing code code nor do we have to refactor > > existing test suites. We just need to make sure the right tests are > > running on stable kernels. I really want to clarify what each > > subsystem sees as "sufficient" (and have that documented > > somewhere). > > kernel.ci and 0-day and Linaro are starting to add the fs and mm > tests to their test suites to address these issues (I think 0-day > already has many of them). So this is happening, but not quite > obvious. I know I keep asking Linaro about this :( 0day has xfstests at least, but it's opt-in only (you have to request that it be run on your trees). When I did it for the SCSI tree, I had to email Fenguangg directly, there wasn't any other way of getting it. James
