Hi John, On Mon 04-02-19 15:46:10, John Hubbard wrote: > On 1/24/19 1:04 AM, Jan Kara wrote: > > > In particular we hope to have reasonably robust mechanism of identifying > > pages pinned by GUP (patches will be posted soon) - I'd like to run that by > > MM folks (unless discussion happens on mailing lists before LSF/MM). We > > also have ideas how filesystems should react to pinned page in their > > writepages methods - there will be some changes needed in some filesystems > > to bounce the page if they need stable page contents. So I'd like to > > explain why we chose to do bouncing to fs people (i.e., why we cannot just > > wait, skip the page, do something else etc.) to save us from the same > > discussion with each fs separately and also hash out what the API for > > filesystems to do this should look like. Finally we plan to keep pinned > > page permanently dirty - again something I'd like to explain why we do this > > and gather input from other people. > > Hi Jan, > > Say, I was just talking through this point with someone on our driver team, > and suddenly realized that I'm now slightly confused on one point. If we end > up keeping the gup-pinned pages effectively permanently dirty while pinned, > then maybe the call sites no longer need to specify "dirty" (or not) when > they call put_user_page*()? > > In other words, the RFC [1] has this API: > > void put_user_page(struct page *page); > void put_user_pages_dirty(struct page **pages, unsigned long npages); > void put_user_pages_dirty_lock(struct page **pages, unsigned long npages); > void put_user_pages(struct page **pages, unsigned long npages); > > But maybe we only really need this: > > void put_user_page(struct page *page); > void put_user_pages(struct page **pages, unsigned long npages); > > ? > > [1] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190204052135.25784-1-jhubbard@xxxxxxxxxx So you are right that if we keep gup-pinned pages dirty, drivers could get away without marking them as such. However I view "keep pages dirty" as an implementation detail, rather than a promise of the API. So I'd like to leave us the flexibility of choosing a different implementation in the future. And as such I'd just leave the put_user_pages_dirty() variants in place. Honza -- Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxxx> SUSE Labs, CR