On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 07:34:45PM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 11:00:32AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 10:35 AM Pavel Machek <pavel@xxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > Could we allocate -ve entries from separate slab? > > > > No, because negative dentrires don't stay negative. > > > > Every single positive dentry starts out as a negative dentry that is > > passed in to "lookup()" to maybe be made positive. > > > > And most of the time they <i>do</i> turn positive, because most of the > > time people actually open files that exist. > > > > But then occasionally you don't, because you're just blindly opening a > > filename whether it exists or not (to _check_ whether it's there). > > BTW, one point that might not be realized by everyone: negative dentries > are *not* the hard case. > mount -t tmpfs none /mnt > touch /mnt/a > for i in `seq 100000`; do ln /mnt/a /mnt/$i; done > > and you've got 100000 *unevictable* dentries, with the time per iteration > being not all that high (especially if you just call link(2) in a loop). > They are all positive and all pinned. And you've got only one inode > there and no persistently opened files, so rlimit and quota won't help > any. OK, this /* * No ordinary (disk based) filesystem counts links as inodes; * but each new link needs a new dentry, pinning lowmem, and * tmpfs dentries cannot be pruned until they are unlinked. */ ret = shmem_reserve_inode(inode->i_sb); if (ret) goto out; will probably help (on ramfs it won't, though).