On Jan 26, 2008 08:27 +0300, Al Boldi wrote: > Jan Kara wrote: > > > data=ordered mode has proven reliable over the years, and it does this > > > by ordering filedata flushes before metadata flushes. But this > > > sometimes causes contention in the order of a 10x slowdown for certain > > > apps, either due to the misuse of fsync or due to inherent behaviour > > > like db's, as well as inherent starvation issues exposed by the > > > data=ordered mode. > > > > > > data=writeback mode alleviates data=order mode slowdowns, but only works > > > per-mount and is too dangerous to run as a default mode. > > > > > > This RFC proposes to introduce a tunable which allows to disable fsync > > > and changes ordered into writeback writeout on a per-process basis like > > > this: > > > > > > echo 1 > /proc/`pidof process`/softsync > > > > I guess disabling fsync() was already commented on enough. Regarding > > switching to writeback mode on per-process basis - not easily possible > > because sometimes data is not written out by the process which stored > > them (think of mmaped file). > > Do you mean there is a locking problem? > > > And in case of DB, they use direct-io > > anyway most of the time so they don't care about journaling mode anyway. > > Testing with sqlite3 and mysql4 shows that performance drastically improves > with writeback writeout. > > > But as Diego wrote, there is definitely some room for improvement in > > current data=ordered mode so the difference shouldn't be as big in the > > end. > > Yes, it would be nice to get to the bottom of this starvation problem, but > even then, the proposed tunable remains useful for misbehaving apps. Al, can you try a patch posted to linux-fsdevel and linux-ext4 from Hisashi Hifumi <hifumi.hisashi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> to see if this improves your situation? Dated Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:15:25 +0900. [PATCH] ext3,4:fdatasync should skip metadata writeout when overwriting It may be that we already have a solution in that patch for database workloads where the pages are already allocated by avoiding the need for ordered mode journal flushing in that case. Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Dilger Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html