On Sep 21 2017, Maxim Patlasov <mpatlasov@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 09/21/2017 10:53 AM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > >> On Sep 21 2017, Maxim Patlasov <mpatlasov@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On 09/21/2017 03:12 AM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >>> >>>> On Sep 20 2017, Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> In writeback-cache mode (enabled by the FUSE_WRITEBACK_CACHE flaga) writes go to >>>>> the cache only, which means that the write(2) syscall can often complete very >>>>> fast. The dirty pages are later sent to userspace using write requests. This >>>>> mode assumes that the file is never changed outside the mounted filesystem, so >>>>> it's not suitable for any network fs. >>>> .."this mode of operation is not suitable for any network filesystem >>>> even if no write operations are actually carried out". >>> Not true. A network filesystem can guarantee that the file is never >>> changed outside by implementing exclusive write lease semantics: when >>> someone opens file for writing first time the metadata server grants >>> exclusive rights for that mount, then declines all subsequent open >>> requests from other mounts; and similarly while a file is being kept >>> opened for reading, the metadata server declines all open-for-writing >>> requests from other mounts. >> In practice that doesn't seem to work, see the example in my first >> message. The file is only ever accessed on one mount at a time, yet the >> changes do not propagate (and would result in data corruption if another >> mount would attempt to read or modify the file afterwards). > > In your example you modified file bypassing fuse mount: > >> echo -e "\nrevision 2" >> /tmp/issue_93/file_1 > > That's like mangling block device while ordinary local fs is running > on top of it. Huh? That's exactly what a network filesystem would see when another host writes to the filesystem. The change doesn't come through the local FUSE layer. Best, -Nikolaus -- GPG Fingerprint: ED31 791B 2C5C 1613 AF38 8B8A D113 FCAC 3C4E 599F »Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a Banana.«