On Nov 29 2016, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Nov 24 2016, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 12:11 AM, Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Currently, both a call to umount(2) and writing "1" to >>>> /sys/fs/fuse/connections/NNN/abort will put the /dev/fuse fd into the >>>> same state: reading from it returns ENODEV, and polling on it returns >>>> POLLERR. >>>> >>>> This causes problems for filesystems that want to ensure that the >>>> mountpoint is free when they exit. If accessing the device fd gives the >>>> above errors, they have to do an additional check to determine if they >>>> still need to unmount the mountpoint. This is difficult to do without >>>> race conditions (think of someone unmounting and immediately re-starting >>>> a new filesystem instance). >>>> >>>> Would it be possible to change the behavior of the /dev/fuse fd so that >>>> userspace can distinguish between a regular umount and use of the >>>> /sys/fs/fuse abort)? >>> >>> Yes. My proposal would be for the kernel to send FUSE_DESTROY >>> asynchronously and only return ENODEV once that request was read by >>> userspace. Currently FUSE_DESTROY is sent synchronously for fuseblk >>> mounts, but not for plain fuse mounts. >> >> I trust that this is a good plan, but from the description I can't quite >> tell how the filesystem would make the distinction between umount/abort >> based on this. Would FUSE_DESTROY be send only for unmount, but not for >> abort? > > Right. The userspace implementation would need to be careful to > process the DESTROY message before ENODEV received in a different > thread. Maybe instead userspace and kernel should negotiate in INIT > whether userspace wants a DESTROY or not. If it does, then on umount > kernel sends DESTROY and does not return ENODEV. If userspace does > not want DESTROY then it falls back to the old way of returning > ENODEV. And on abort it would do that as well, regardless of the > negotiated DESTROY request. That sounds great to me. Would you have to implement this, or should I try to give it a shot? In the latter case, could you give me a hint where the entry points for the umount and abort code paths are (in the kernel code)? Best, -Nikolaus -- GPG encrypted emails preferred. Key id: 0xD113FCAC3C4E599F Fingerprint: ED31 791B 2C5C 1613 AF38 8B8A D113 FCAC 3C4E 599F »Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a Banana.« -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html