On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:38:46AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:09:24 +1000 > Greg Banks <gnb@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 07:02:58AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:25:45 +1000 > > > Greg Banks <gnb@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm curious about the reasons behind this change. You mention > > > > credential issues; how exactly is it that you have the correct creds > > > > to perform a WRITE rpc but not a SETATTR rpc? > > > > > > > > > > Consider this case. user1 and user2 are both members of group > > > "allusers": > > > > > > user1$ echo foo > foo > > > user1$ chgrp allusers foo > > > user1$ chmod 04770 foo > > > user2$ echo bar >> foo > > > > > > On most local filesystems, this would work correctly. The end result > > > would be a file with mode 0770 and the expected contents. On NFS > > > though, the write by user2 fails. When the write is attempted, the > > > kernel tries to squash the setuid bit using the credentials of user2, > > > who's not allowed to change the mode. The write then fails because the > > > setattr fails. > > > > Ok, I ran an experiment and I see this failure mode. > > > > So the SETATTR rpc is really a side effect of the client kernel's > > behaviour and not an operation directly requested by the user process > > on the client. Is there any reason why that rpc needs to have user2's > > creds? Why not do the rpc with a fake set of creds with uid and gid > > set to the uid and gid of the file, in this case user1/allusers ? > > That way the rpc will most likely pass the server's permission check. > > > > That might work in some cases, but there are many where it wouldn't... > > Suppose user1 here is root and all of the user1 operations are being > done on the server. If the server has root squashing enabled, then > user2's operation would still fail. In that case, user1's operations would also fail, which is even more serious a problem. Also arguably you actually *want* writes by a nonroot user to a setuid root executable to fail ;-) > Another problem: > > Suppose we're using gssapi. There's no guarantee that the client will > have the proper credentials to fake up a call as user1 (you might need > user1 krb5 tickets, etc). Yes, good point. You could use the root creds, except for root squashing. Ok, you convinced me. Greg. -- Greg Banks, R&D Software Engineer, SGI Australian Software Group. Apparently, I'm Bedevere. Which MPHG character are you? I don't speak for SGI. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html