Hi, vfat does not know about ownership, hence the files are always owned by the vfat mounter (or whatever the uid= option specified). Which brings a problem to userspace programs trying to utime() but which do not run as the same user as the vfat mounter, because: fs/attr.c:53 ret = -EPERM; [...] /* Check for setting the inode time. */ if (ia_valid & (ATTR_MTIME_SET | ATTR_ATIME_SET)) { if (current->fsuid != inode->i_uid && !capable(CAP_FOWNER)) goto error; } To trigger the problem: # mount /somevfat -o umask=0,uid=root $ touch -d "2005-05-05" /somevfat/myfile I am not sure how this could be dealt with besides passing -o quiet to mount.vfat. Any ideas? Jan -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html