On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 12:41:59PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 04 July 2007, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 12:11:56AM +0200, Karel Zak wrote: > > > mount(8) doesn't include filesystem detection code anymore. You > > > have to compile --with-fsprobe={blkid,volume_id}, and libblkid > > > (e2fsprogs) or libvolume_id (udev >= v110) is required. > > > > Sorry, but it's really annoying to pull in a filesystem-specific devel > > package for that. Having a library is fine, but please move the library > > into util-linux so it's always available without another dependency. > > ugh, moving libraries which are already actively maintained by other core > projects into util-linux is so not a good idea (ignoring the fact that it'd > easily be a pita/waste for distro maintainers) Yes. We have good experience with libblkid and libvolume_id. This concept is nothing new (see current RHEL, FC, Suse, ...). The change is that we've removed old, useless and unmaintained FS detection code from util-linux. I think move the library to util-linux is really bad idea. A better idea is detach libblkid or libvolume_id (or both) from e2fsprogs/udev and create an independent libfsprobe library and use everywhere (e2fsprogs, udev, util-linux) this library only. > > > The package build system is now based on autotools. The build system > > > supports separate CFLAGS and LDFLAGS for suid programs (SUID_CFLAGS, > > > SUID_LDFLAGS). For more details see the README file > > > > And this is really dumb. autotools is a completely pain in the ass and Well, Adrian Bunk added autotools stuff to util-linux during his work on v2.13. This stuff has been fixed and stabilized in util-linux-ng v2.13. I'm not fanatical autotools protagonist, but it seems useful in util-linux. We will see... I'm ready to change or fix arbitrary thing in util-linux-ng, but I always need a real reason -- bug report, new feature, or so. This discussion is about impressions and feelings only. > > not useful at all for linux-only tools. > > incorrect. linux changes over time as does the kernel/libc/architecture > api's. look at the old util-linux build system -- it had a crappy hand > written configure script to try and detect all these different issues. Right. The autotools provides more features that portability only. Karel -- Karel Zak <kzak@xxxxxxxxxx> - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html