On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 11:10:42PM -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote: > On Jun 18, 2007, at 13:56:05, Bryan Henderson wrote: >>> The question remains is where to implement versioning: directly in >>> individual filesystems or in the vfs code so all filesystems can use it? >> >> Or not in the kernel at all. I've been doing versioning of the types I >> described for years with user space code and I don't remember feeling that >> I compromised in order not to involve the kernel. > > What I think would be particularly interesting in this domain is something > similar in concept to GIT, except in a file-system: I've written a couple of user-space things very much like this - one being a purely database (blobs in database, yeah I know) system for managing medical data, where signatures and auditability were the most important part of the system. Performance really wasn't a consideration. The other one is my current job, FastMail - we have a virtual filesystem which uses files stored by sha1 on ordainary filesystems for data storage and a database for metadata (filename to sha1 mappings, mtime, mimetype, directory structure, etc). Multiple machine distribution is handled by a daemon on each machine which can be asked to make sure the file gets sent out to every machine that matches the prefix and will only return success once it's written to at least one other machine. Database replication is a different beast. It can work, but there's one big pain at the file level: no mmap. If you don't want to support mmap it can work reasonably happily, though you may want to keep your sha1 (or other digest) state as well as the final digest so you can cheaply calculate the digest for a small append without walking the entire file. You may also want to keep state checkpoints every so often along a big file so that truncates don't cost too much to recalculate. Luckily in a userspace VFS that's only accessed via FTP and DAV we can support a limited set of operations (basically create, append, read, delete) You don't get that luxury for a general purpose filesystem, and that's the problem. There will always be particular usage patterns (especially something that mmaps or seeks and touches all over the place like a loopback mounted filesystem or a database file) that just dodn't work for file-level sha1s. It does have some lovely properties though. I'd enjoy working in an envionment that didn't look much like POSIX but had the strong guarantees and auditability that addressing by sha1 buys you. Bron. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
