Lennart Sorensen wrote: > Nope, if they are accurate and they have something to do with your > particular usage and applications, then they are relevant. But it > requires both to make them relevant. Although it may be possible for a > benchmark to be relevant even if not particularly accurate. I do not care about the benchmarks or the compression. They are pointless anyway, Reiser4 is not and can not be all things to all people. I do not care how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Whether it is most suitable for broad use or only narrow cases remains to seen. Hans Reiser is now in jail awaiting trial for the murder of his wife - I doubt he is going to be posting and stirring things up anytime soon Those who need to assurance of their moral superiority can take that as proof if they need. I do care about getting Reiser4 into the kernel so that it can actually get a real test, and frankly do not see any compelling reason that should not happen. Their may be better filesystems currently in the kernel - there certainly are crappier ones. I have used ReiserFs extensively, and on the whole been extremely happy with it. I have been slightly singed - a long time ago, but it is certainly not the only file system that has caused me grief. I can not think of an existing Linux (or other) filesystem that is the be all or end all. I have no time for either the zealots that think Reiser4 is the next best thing to sliced bread nor those who are going to find some case to demonstrate it is total crap - no matter what. Most people are wise not to use Reiser4 - or any other new filesystem until it has been rigorously tested. I have no bone to pick with that. I will try it once it is available in standard kernel sources, but I am juggling enough patches as it is, and I am not the patch wizard that some of the rest of you are. If I get burned - so be it. It won't be the first time. This game has gone on sufficiently long that Reiser4 has zero hope of becoming more than a footnote used primarily by oddballs and misfits. But there is still some hope that a slightly wider audience might result in numerous positive benefits to other filesystems. I have read many of the critiques - but even if they are valid, I thought Linux was a place where competing ideas were tested in use not rhetoric. -- Dave Lynch DLA Systems Software Development: Embedded Linux 717.627.3770 dhlii@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.dlasys.net fax: 1.253.369.9244 Cell: 1.717.587.7774 Over 25 years' experience in platforms, languages, and technologies too numerous to list. "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstein - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html