Re: mount option to ignore permissions

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On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 23:39 +0100, Ihar `Philips` Filipau wrote:

>   The problem have beaten me before. And now I have it again.
>   Imaging external hard drive with "proper" file system (proper ==
> supports posix permissions) where files were created by user A and
> then it (ext. hard drive) was brought to another location/computer and
> user B tried to read them. Failure. Why? Because Linux preserved
> permissions on hard drive - though they are already irrelevant on
> system fs is currently mounted on. And that renders literally all
> files accessible only by root.
> 
>   What is needed is special mount option to tell file system (*):
>    (1) to ignore permissions when file/directory is read;
>    (2) when file/directory is created it receives automatically "world
> writable" permissions 0666 (I cannot imaging how to simulate "user
> friendly" file attribute "read-only", though it seems not relevant to
> external storage anyway).
> 
>   I'm looking into the code and it seems that every file system parses
> option on their own.
>   Global flags (ro/rw, nodev, etc) are handled by mount(8) itself and
> passed to sys_mount() as bitmask.
> 
>   How gid/uid are passed to file system? I do not see them in
> parameter list to sys_mount(). Or they are handled somehow otherwise?

A posix file system doesn't have a uid or gid associated with it.  These
are set based on the owner of the process creating the file or
directory.

>   Any ideas on how I can simulate such behavior and or on how to
> implement such attribute would be appreciated.

jfs does support mount options to override uid, gid, and umask for
existing files.  The reason for this is so a file system can be shared
between linux and os2, and os2 doesn't use these fields.  (I just
realized that I've never documented these flags.)

I don't know how other file systems' maintainers would feel about
supporting these flags.  I can see how it would be useful for external
hard drives.

> P.S. chmod/chown isn't option since (1) they do not work for ro file
> system and (2) doing that every time on NNNk files might quite
> tiresome - every time disk is reattached.

This is true of chown, but if you would chmod everything to 777 (or 666
for non-directories), you wouldn't have to repeat that every time you
reattach.  You could mount the drive under a directory with restricted
permissions to have some degree of security.

> P.P.S. BTW MacOSX has such option and it is automatically selected for
> external hard drives.

What are the details?  If something were to be proposed, it wouldn't
hurt to try to be consistent.

> P.P.P.S. That doesn't happen with most external hard drives since they
> are all FAT32. I moved to ext2/hfs+ in part to avoid the recurring
> nightmares of past when I have worked with FAT32 all day long. And
> also ext2/hfs+ (under Linux/MacOSX) are better than FAT*. And also I
> need "case sensitiveness".

Shaggy
-- 
David Kleikamp
IBM Linux Technology Center

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