Hi! > > >> No one guarantees you sane result of tar or cp -a while changing the tree. > > >> I don't see how is_samefile() could make it worse. > > > > > > There are several cases where changing the tree doesn't affect the > > > correctness of the tar or cp -a result. In some of these cases using > > > samefile() instead of st_ino _will_ result in a corrupted result. > > > > ... and those are what? > > - /a/p/x and /a/q/x are links to the same file > > - /b/y and /a/q/y are links to the same file > > - tar is running on /a > > - meanwhile the following commands are executed: > > mv /a/p/x /b/x > mv /b/y /a/p/x > > With st_ino checking you'll get a perfectly consistent archive, > regardless of the timing. With samefile() you could get an archive > where the data in /a/q/y is not stored, instead it will contain the > data of /a/q/x. > > Note, this is far nastier than the "normal" corruption you usually get > with changing the tree under tar, the file is not just duplicated or > missing, it becomes a completely different file, even though it hasn't > been touched at all during the archiving. > > The basic problem with samefile() is that it can only compare files at > a single snapshot in time, and cannot take into account any changes in > the tree (unless keeping files open, which is impractical). > There's really no point trying to push for such an inferior interface > when the problems which samefile is trying to address are purely > theoretical. Oh yes, there is. st_ino is powerful, *but impossible to implement* on many filesystems. You are of course welcome to combine st_ino with samefile. > Currently linux is living with 32bit st_ino because of legacy apps, > and people are not constantly agonizing about it. Fixing the > EOVERFLOW problem will enable filesystems to slowly move towards 64bit > st_ino, which should be more than enough. 50% probability of false positive on 4G files seems like very ugly design problem to me. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html