On Tue, Jun 06, 2023 at 03:18:59PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2023 at 02:06:24PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 09:49:38PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 05:44:45PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote: > > > > On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:40:40 +0200 > > > > Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 11:16:07AM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In the long run I agree it would be good. Short term there are more instances of > > > > > > struct pmu that don't have parents than those that do (even after this series). > > > > > > We need to figure out what to do about those before adding checks on it being > > > > > > set. > > > > > > > > > > Right, I don't think you've touched *any* of the x86 PMUs for example, > > > > > and getting everybody that boots an x86 kernel a warning isn't going to > > > > > go over well :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was tempting :) "Warning: Parentless PMU: try a different architecture." > > > > > > Haha! > > > > > > > I'd love some inputs on what the x86 PMU devices parents should be? > > > > CPU counters in general tend to just spin out of deep in the architecture code. > > > > > > For the 'simple' ones I suppose we can use the CPU device. > > > > Uh, *which* CPU device? Do we have a container device for all CPUs? > > drivers/base/cpu.c:per_cpu(cpu_sys_devices, cpu) for whatever the core > pmu is for that cpu ? ... but the struct pmu covers several CPUs, so I don't have a single 'cpu', no? If I have a system where cpu{0,1,2} are Cortex-A53 and cpu{3,4} are Cortex-A57, I have two struct pmu instances, each associated with several CPUs. When I probe each of those I determine a cpumask for each. > > > > My overall favorite is an l2 cache related PMU that is spun up in > > > > arch/arm/kernel/irq.c init_IRQ() > > > > That's an artifact of the L2 cache controller driver getting initialized there; > > ideally we'd have a device for the L2 cache itself (which presumably should > > hang off an aggregate CPU device). > > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/cache/indexM > > has a struct device somewhere in > drivers/base/cacheinfo.c:ci_index_dev or somesuch. I guess, but I don't think the L2 cache controller (the PL310) is actually tied to that today. > > > Yeah, we're going to have a ton of them as well. Some of them are PCI > > > devices and have a clear parent, others, not so much :/ > > > > In a number of places the only thing we have is the PMU driver, and we don't > > have a driver (or device) for the HW block it's a part of. Largely that's > > interconnect PMUs; we could create container devices there. > > Dont they have a PCI device? But yeah, some are going to be a wee bit > challenging. The system might not even have PCI, so it's arguable that they should just hang off an MMIO bus (which is effectively what the platofrm bus is). Thanks, Mark.