Re: [PATCH v1 00/12] add FPGA hotplug manager driver

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On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 07:42:53PM +0100, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 08:28:51AM -0800, Russ Weight wrote:
> > On 1/19/23 05:33, Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 08:35:50PM -0500, Tianfei Zhang wrote:
> > > > This patchset introduces the FPGA hotplug manager (fpgahp) driver which
> > > > has been verified on the Intel N3000 card.
> > > >
> > > > When a PCIe-based FPGA card is reprogrammed, it temporarily disappears
> > > > from the PCIe bus. This needs to be managed to avoid PCIe errors and to
> > > > reprobe the device after reprogramming.
> > > >
> > > > To change the FPGA image, the kernel burns a new image into the flash on
> > > > the card, and then triggers the card BMC to load the new image into FPGA.
> > > > A new FPGA hotplug manager driver is introduced that leverages the PCIe
> > > > hotplug framework to trigger and manage the update of the FPGA image,
> > > > including the disappearance and reappearance of the card on the PCIe bus.
> > > > The fpgahp driver uses APIs from the pciehp driver. Two new operation
> > > > callbacks are defined in hotplug_slot_ops:
> > > >
> > > >   - available_images: Optional: available FPGA images
> > > >   - image_load: Optional: trigger the FPGA to load a new image
> > > 
> > > Why is all of this tied into the pci hotplug code? Shouldn't it be
> > > specific to this one driver instead?  pci hotplug is for removing/adding
> > > PCI devices to the system, not messing with FPGA images.
> > >
> > > This feels like an abuse of the pci hotplug bus to me as this is NOT
> > > really a PCI hotplug bus at all, right?
> > 
> > While it is true that triggering an FPGA image-load does not involve
> > hotplug specific registers to be managed, the RTL that comprises
> > the PCIe interface will disappear and then reappear after the FPGA
> > is reprogrammed. When it reappears, it_could/_/have a different PCI
> > ID. The process of managing this event has a lot of similarity to a
> > PCIe hotplug event; there is a lot of existing PCIe hotplug related
> > code that could be leveraged.
> 
> It sounds like the N3000 is a PCI endpoint device which, when reprogrammed,
> briefly disappears from the bus and then may reappear under a different
> device ID.
> 
> What you want to do then is make sure that the slot into which the N3000
> is plugged is hotplug-capable.  In that case, pciehp will handle
> disappearance and reappearance of the card just fine.  Once the N3000
> disables the link, pciehp will bring down the slot.  Once it re-enables
> the link, it will bring the slot up again.  It's as if the card was
> removed and replaced with a different one.  pciehp will bind to the
> Root Port or Downstream Port associated with the hotplug slot.
> 
> The pci_hotplug_port infrastructure is for hotplug controllers which
> handle devices disappearing and reappearing *below* them.  It is not
> for endpoint devices.

Yes, thank you for expressing my concerns about this design much better
than I originally did.  I totally agree.

thanks,

greg k-h



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