Re: [PATCH v10 3/4] fpga: dfl: add basic support for DFHv1

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On Thu, 12 Jan 2023, Andy Shevchenko wrote:

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 10:13:31AM +0800, Xu Yilun wrote:
On 2023-01-10 at 14:07:16 -0800, matthew.gerlach@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 04:30:28PM -0800, matthew.gerlach@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
From: Matthew Gerlach <matthew.gerlach@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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v10: change dfh_find_param to return size of parameter data in bytes

The problem that might occur with this approach is byte ordering.
When we have u64 items, we know that they all are placed in CPU
ordering by the bottom layer. What's the contract now? Can it be
a problematic? Please double check this (always keep in mind BE32
as most interesting case for u64/unsigned long representation and
other possible byte ordering outcomes).

A number of u64 items certainly states explicit alignment of the memory, but
I think byte ordering is a different issue.

The bottom layer, by design, is still enforcing a number u64 items under the
hood. So the contract has not changed. Changing units of size from u64s to
bytes was suggested to match the general practice of size of memory being in
bytes. I think the suggestion was made because the return type for
dfh_find_param() changed from u64* to void* in version 9, when indirectly
returning the size of the parameter data was introduced.  So a void * with a
size in bytes makes sense. On the other hand, returning a u64 * is a more
precise reflection of the data alignment. I think the API should be as

I prefer (void *) + bytes. The properties in the parameter block are not
guarateed to be u64 for each, e.g. the REG_LAYOUT, so (void *) could better
indicate it is not. It is just a block of data unknown to DFL core and to
be parsed by drivers.

If the hardware / protocol is capable of communicating the arbitrary lengths
of parameters, then yes, bytes make sense. But this should be clear what byte
ordering is there if the items can be words / dwords / qwords.

The hardware does communicate the arbitrary lengths of the parameter data; so bytes make sense. I will update Documentation/fpga/dfl.rst to explicitly say that multi-byte quantities are little-endian.


TL;DR: The Q is: Is the parameter block a byte stream? If yes, then your
proposal is okay. If no, no void * should be used. In the latter it should
be union of possible items or a like as defined by a protocol.

The parameter block is not a byte stream; so void * should be used.

Thanks,
Matthew Gerlach



And why users/drivers need to care about the alignment of the parameter
block?

follows:

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With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko






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