Re: Question on s3fb DDC support

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On Sunday 03 August 2014 16:47:17 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Jean Delvare <jdelvare@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I am looking at the DDC / I2C implementation in that driver and I'm not
> > sure I understand how it works. Specifically I am wondering about bit
> > DDC_DRIVE_EN. It is set unconditionally in s3fb_ddc_setscl() and
> > s3fb_ddc_setsda() and never cleared explicitly. If this bit is a
> > regular bit then I don't understand why it is not just set at driver
> > initialization time. Or is this bit self-clearing and/or not-sticking?
> >
> > The reason why I am asking is that I don't think the code in these
> > functions is completely correct. For the I2C protocol, 1 is the natural
> > state of both lines and the devices on the bus should only ever pull
> > the lines low to force a 0 state. They should never force a 1 state, as
> > this breaks some protocol features (specifically arbitration and clock
> > stretching.) My interpretation of the current code is that the lines
> > are forced to both 0 and 1 by the master, which is not correct. But as
> > I don't know how DDC_DRIVE_EN works, I'm not sure, and if it's indeed
> > broken [1], I'm also not sure how to fix it.
> >
> > So if you could clarify how bit DDC_DRIVE_EN works, that would be great.
>
> http://www.vgamuseum.info/images/stories/doc/s3/virge.pdf, p. 24-11:
>
> Bit 0 SCW - Serial Clock Write
> 0 = Pin 205 is driven low
> 1 = Pin 205 is tri-stated
> Pin 205 carries the DDC/I 2 C clock, depending on the operational
> mode. When pin 205
> is tri-stated, other devices may drive this line. The actual state of
> the pin is read via
> bit 2 of this register.
> Bit 1 SDW - Serial Data Write
> 0 = Pin 206 is driven low
> 1 = Pin 206 is tri-stated
> Pin 206 carries the DDC/I 2 C data, depending on the operational mode.
> When pin 206
> is tri-stated, other devices may drive this line. The actual state of
> the pin is read via
> bit 3 of this register.
> Bit 2 SCR - Serial Clock Read (Read Only)
> 0 = Pin 205 is low
> 1 = Pin 205 is tri-stated (no device is driving this line)
> Bit 3 SDR - Serial Data Read (Read Only)
> 0 = Pin 206 is low
> 1 = Pin 206 is tri-stated (no device is driving this line)
> Bit 4 SPE - Serial Port Enable
> 0 = Use of bits 1-0 of this register disabled
> 1 = Use of bits 1-0 of this register enabled
>
> Still doesn't explain well the real meaning of bit 4, but it does confirm
> that writing a 1 to bit 0 or bit 1 doesn't drive the line high.

Thanks for explanation and datasheet. I wrote that code without docs, just 
observing what card's BIOS does. "DRIVE_EN" name was just a guess.
The bit is set always because other code (especially X11) can mess with the HW 
behind our back.

> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
>
>                         Geert
>
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>
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