Hi, I'm trying to crowbar some extra VMemory into fbdev devices to abuse them in a similar fashion to what DRM does. I'm trying to avoid DRM for various reasons, but it seems all of the new stuff _only_ goes in DRM. Specifically, the intel/nvidia drivers seems to be only useful in combination with DRM. I need KMS for laziness, but that needs DRM? No way to get kms without running DRM? If i have to run DRM, is there any Documentation that explains the relation to fbdev? Eyeballing around in the intel code tells me, the framebuffer is actually a DRM gem thingy. Can i sort of blit other DRM gems onto a framebuffer? If i can avoid DRM, any idea how i could allocate small VMem areas from userspace on demand? FB seems to have no api for that at all. All we have is a single large VMem area to pixel manipulate. Unless i totally missread that code. I am guessing, i could archive what i want by adding some extra ioctls, but i dont see where, since the device is abstracted away from the drivers. -- Arvid -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fbdev" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html