On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 at 14:46, Josef Bacik <josef@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Did you see the patch that added the > fsnotify_file_has_pre_content_watches() thing? No, because I had gotten to patch 6/11, and it added this open thing, and there was no such thing in any of the patches before it. It looks like you added FSNOTIFY_PRE_CONTENT_EVENTS in 11/17. However, at no point does it look like you actually test it at open time, so none of this seems to matter. As far as I can see, even at the end of the series, you will call the fsnotify hook at open time even if there are no content watches on the file. So apparently the fsnotify_file_has_pre_content_watches() is not called when it should be, and when it *is* called, it's also doing completely the wrong thing. Look, for basic operations THAT DON'T CARE, you now added a function call to fsnotify_file_has_pre_content_watches(), that function call looks at inode->i_sb->s_iflags (doing two D$ accesses that shouldn't be done!), and then after that looks at the i_fsnotify_mask. THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF GARBAGE I'M TALKING ABOUT. This code has been written by somebody who NEVER EVER looked at profiles. You're following chains of pointers when you never should. Look, here's a very basic example of the kind of complete mis-design I'm talking about: - we're doing a basic read() on a file that isn't being watched. - we want to maybe do read-ahead - the code does if (fsnotify_file_has_pre_content_watches(file)) return fpin; to say that "don't do read-ahead". Fine, I understand the concept. But keep in mind that the common case is presumably that there are no content watches. And even ignoring the "common case" issue, that's the one you want to OPTIMIZE for. That's the case that matters for performance, because clearly if there are content watches, you're going to go into "Go Slow" mode anyway and not do pre-fetching. So even if content watches are common on some load, they are clearly not the case you should do performance optimization for. With me so far? So if THAT is the case that matters, then dammit, we shouldn't be calling a function at all. And when calling the function, we shouldn't start out with this completely broken logic: struct inode *inode = file_inode(file); __u32 mnt_mask = real_mount(file->f_path.mnt)->mnt_fsnotify_mask; if (!(inode->i_sb->s_iflags & SB_I_ALLOW_HSM)) return false; that does random crap and looks up some "mount mask" and looks up the superblock flags. Why shouldn't we do this? BECAUSE NONE OF THIS MATTERS IF THE FILE HASN'T EVEN BEEN MARKED FOR CONTENT MATCHES! See why I'm shouting? You're doing insane things, and you're doing them for all the cases that DO NOT MATTER. You're doing all of this for the common case that doesn't want to see that kind of mindless overhead. You literally check for the "do I even care" *last*, when you finally do that fsnotify_object_watched() check that looks at the inode. But by then you have already wasted all that time and effort, and fsnotify_object_watched() is broken anyway, because it's stupidly designed to require that mnt_mask that isn't needed if you have properly marked each object individually. So what *should* you have? You should have had a per-file flag saying "Do I need to even call this crud at all", and have it in a location where you don't need to look at anything else. And fsnotify already basically has that flag, except it's mis-designed too. We have FMODE_NONOTIFY, which is the wrong way around (saying "don't notify", when that should just be the *default*), and the fsnotify layer uses it only to mark its own internal files so that it doesn't get called recursively. So that flag that *looks* sane and is in the right location is actually doing the wrong thing, because it's dealing with a rare special case, not the important cases that actually matter. So all of this readahead logic - and all of the read and write hooks - should be behind a simple "oh, this file doesn't have any notification stuff, so don't bother calling any fsnotify functions". So I think the pattern should be static inline bool fsnotify_file_has_pre_content_watches(struct file *file) { if (unlikely(file->f_mode & FMODE_NOTIFY)) return out_of_line_crud(file); return false; } so that the *only* thing that gets inlined is "does this file have any fsnotify stuff at all", and in the common case where that isn't true, we don't call any fsnotify functions, and we don't start looking at inodes or superblocks or anything pointless like that. THAT is the kind of code sequence we should have for unlikely cases. Not the "call fsnotify code to check for something unlikely". Not "look at file_inode(file)->i_sb->s_iflags" until it's *required*. Similarly, the actual open-time code SHOULD NEVER BE CALLED, because it should have the same kind of simple logic based on some simple flag either in the dentry or maybe in the inode. So that all those *normal* dentries and inodes that don't have watches don't get the overhead of calling into fsnotify code. Because yes, I do see all those function calls, and all those unnecessary indirect pointer accesses when I do profiles. And if I see fsnotify in my profiles when I don't have any notifications enabled, that really really *annoys* me. Linus