On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 8:40 PM Linus Torvalds <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > If you want secure keys, you can't rely on a blocking model, because > it ends up not working. Blocking leads to problems. Side note: I'd argue that (despite my earlier mis-understanding) the only really valid use of "block until there is entropy" is the systemd-random-seed model that blocks not because it wants a secure key, but blocks because it wants to save the (now properly) random seed for later. So apologies to Lennart - he was very much right, and I mis-understood Ahmed's bug report. Systemd was blameless, and blocked correctly. While blocking for actual random keys was the usual bug, just for that silly and pointless MIT cookie that doesn't even need the secure randomness. But because the getrandom() interface was mis-designed (and only _looks_ like a more convenient interface for /dev/urandom, without being one), the MIT cookie code got the blocking whether it wanted to or not. Just say no to blocking for key data. Linus