On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 11:37 AM Willy Tarreau <w@xxxxxx> wrote: > > I also wanted to ask, are we going to enforce the same strategy on > /dev/urandom ? Right now the strategy for /dev/urandom is "print a one-line warning, then do the read". I don't see why we should change that. The whole point of urandom has been that it doesn't block, and doesn't use up entropy. It's the _blocking_ behavior that has always been problematic. It's why almost nobody uses /dev/random in practice. getrandom() looks like /dev/urandom in not using up entropy, but had that blocking behavior of /dev/random that was problematic. And exactly the same way it was problematic for /dev/random users, it has now shown itself to be problematic for getrandom(). My suggested patch left the /dev/random blocking behavior, because hopefully people *know* about the problems there. And hopefully people understand that getrandom(GRND_RANDOM) has all the same issues. If you want that behavior, you can still use GRND_RANDOM or /dev/random, but they are simply not acceptable for boot-time schenarios. Never have been, ... exactly the way the "block forever" wasn't acceptable for getrandom(). Linus