<xfs list address fixed> On 12/16/15 7:41 PM, Qu Wenruo wrote: > Hi, > > In a recent btrfs patch, it is going to add a mount option to disable > log replay for btrfs, just like "norecovery" for ext4/xfs. > > But in the discussion on the mount option name and use case, it seems > better to have an unified and fs independent mount option alias for > real RO mount > > Reasons: > 1) Some file system may have already used [no]"recovery" mount option > In fact, btrfs has already used "recovery" mount option. > Using "norecovery" mount option will be quite confusing for btrfs. Too bad btrfs picked those semantics when "norecovery" has existed on other filesystems for quite some time with a different meaning... :( > 2) More straight forward mount option > Currently, to get real RO mount, for ext4/xfs, user must use -o > ro,norecovery. > Just ro won't ensure real RO, and norecovery can't be used alone. > If we have a simple alias, it would be much better for user to use. > (it maybe done just in user space mount) mount(8) simply says: ro Mount the filesystem read-only. and mount(2) is no more illustrative: MS_RDONLY Mount file system read-only. kernel code is no help, either: #define MS_RDONLY 1 /* Mount read-only */ They say nothing about what, exactly, "read-only" means. But since at least the early ext3 days, it means that you cannot write through the filesystem, not that the filesystem will leave the block device unmodified when it mounts. I have always interpreted it as simply "no user changes to the filesystem," and that is clearly what the vfs does with the flag... > Not to mention some fs (yeah, btrfs again) doesn't have "norecovery" > but "nologreplay". well, again, btrfs picked unfortunate semantics, given the precedent set by other filesystems. f2fs, ext4, gfs2, nilfs2, and xfs all support "norecovery" - xfs since forever, ext4 & f2fs since 2009, etc. > 3) A lot of user even don't now mount ro can still modify device > Yes, I didn't know this point until I checked the log replay code of > btrfs. > Adding such mount option alias may raise some attention of users. Given that nothing in the documentation implies that the block device itself must remain unchanged on a read-only mount, I don't see any problem which needs fixing. MS_RDONLY rejects user IO; that's all. If you want to be sure your block device rejects all IO for forensics or what have you, I'd suggest # blockdev --setro /dev/whatever prior to mount, and take it out of the filesystem's control. Or better yet, making an image and not touching the original. -Eric > Any ideas about this? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html