https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61601 --- Comment #13 from Theodore Tso <tytso@xxxxxxx> --- Jacob, there are very good programs to help people learn how to get involved with kernel development. See the kernelnewbies.org web site and mailing list, for example. But you need to have some amount of basic competence; being able to use Google well, for example, and doing silly things like making sure the patches compile before you submit patches for review. Also, if you have clueless people asking users completely random questions that are completely useless in terms of fixing the problem, it wastes the user's time and causes them to get very frustrated. So having newbies trying to help users who are reporting kernel bugs is not a good idea. If they want to help users install Linux distributions, that's fine --- so long as you are minimally competent in doing installation. Similarly, if you are completely incompetent in doing kernel development, you should not be offering to help users. There are ways for newbies to get involved. The problem is Nick has consistently ignored advice of people who have wasted a huge amount of time trying to get him on the right path. Which is why he has gotten banned. If you are someone who wants to get started, there is the Eudyptula Challenge (http://eudyptula-challenge.org). Nick finally got involved with this, and then violated the very simple rules, which caused him to get ejected from the Challenge within hours, thus setting a new record for the Eudyuptula Challenge. Anyway, this is off topic for the bug. So please stop discussing this here, please. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching the assignee of the bug. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html