On Wed 03-04-13 19:41:38, Dmitry Monakhov wrote: > On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:15:22 +0200, Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed 03-04-13 19:09:33, Dmitry Monakhov wrote: > > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 16:50:55 +0200, Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Wed 03-04-13 18:21:46, Dmitry Monakhov wrote: > > > > > inode store i_sync_tid and i_datasync_tid in order to optimize journal > > > > > flushes and wait for commits only when necessary, but > > > > > fields are declared as tid_t(not atomic_t as it done in ext3) so we > > > > > have not synchronization between readers and writers, so gcc and cpu > > > > > is allowed to perform prefetch, cache and other stuff. > > > > > Looks like a bug, right? > > > > Reads and writes to atomic_t aren't guaranteed to be any kind of a > > > > barrier (if fact they are compiled as simple stores and loads on x86). Only > > > > arithmetic operations on atomic types are special. So using tid_t is just > > > > fine. > > > Ok but what about prefetching? > > > Compiler is allowed to prefetch on early stage ? > > > should we use ACCESS_ONCE() or wmb() and rmb() here? > > Yes, but prefetch can hardly happen before the syscall is started and > > value from that time is enough. We just have to be sure that if user can > > prove write(2) happened before fsync(2), then data written by write(2) are > > on disk. So I don't think we need any barriers there. > Sorry for be annoying but what prevents us from following situation?: > DD: > fallocate(2) > write(2) > > fsync(2) > {prefetch}commit_tid = ie->i_sync_tid (T1) > [flushd] > ->convert_extents > -> ei->i_sync_tid = current_tid (T2) > > Observe that commit_tid == T1 (too old) > issue a barrier and exit but > data still in transaction which is not yet committed Heh, ok, you are careful :). So I have to be as well. Races with extent conversion specifically are prevented by the call to ext4_flush_unwritten_io(). That call effectively establishes a full barrier by taking and dropping a spinlock. So if that call saw empty list of conversions, we must later see fresh value of i_sync_tid. Now ext4_flush_unwritten_io() is going away in my cleanup patches but then the synchronization of writeback (and extent conversion) from flusher thread and fsync() happens in filemap_write_and_wait_range() which establishes similar barrier by looking at PageWriteback bit - i.e. if it sees PageWriteback cleared, we must also see new value of i_sync_tid. Thanks for poking into this because it made me realize things aren't as trivial as I thought they are. Honza -- Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx> SUSE Labs, CR -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html