On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Allison Henderson
<achender@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 11/20/2011 06:59 PM, Yongqiang Yang wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am curious about the reason we need this operation in write_begin
>> functions. I had a look at the commit log just now. The commit
>> log explains the intention is to handle writes on a hole and writes on
>> EOF. Two cases can be handled successfully by block_write_begin.
>>
>>
>> Yongqiang.
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry I missed the first note that came through. I have not been able to
> look at this in depth yet, but will do so when I get back from the holiday
> break next Thurs. Basically this patch was addressing a bug I found when I
> was trying to get the punch hole patch through an overnight run of fsx.
>
> With out this patch, fsx fails (after about 6 or so hours, with punch hole
> enabled). The failure is triggered when a region of the test file that is
> supposed to contain zeros, ends up containing garbage. In this case what I
> found was that a write operation that starts/ends in a hole or runs off the
> edge of the file, is supposed to zero out the part of the page that is still
> in the hole or beyond EOF. But instead of zeroing to the end of the page,
> it would only zero to the edge of the block. So it would only appear to
> work when blocksize = pagesize, but if blocksize < pagesize, we end up with
> extra garbage in the page.
Thank you for your response.
Well. According to code in vfs, do_mpage_readpage can handle this by
calling block_read_full_page. Consider that current code can not
handle the case above, then if there is a hole in a file, ext4 with
punching hole does not work as well. I am suspecting punch hole do
something abnormal, eg. setting false uptodate status or operating on
a unlocked page. Just a guess:-) I will have a look at the code.
Yongqiang.
>
> ext4_discard_partial_page_buffers_no_lock() and
> ext4_discard_partial_page_buffers(), were modeled off of the original
> ext4_block_zero_page_range routine, but modified to handle multiple blocks
> for a page. ext4_discard_partial_page_buffers is simply a wrapper that
> locks the page before passing it to
> ext4_discard_partial_page_buffers_no_lock. In most cases I found that the
> page needs to be locked, but for ext4_da_write_end and ext4_da_write_begin I
> ran into deadlocks, so I added the wrapper for optional locking. I will
> look more into it when I get back, but perhaps all we need here is some more
> logic to figure out if the page is present and needs locking.
>
> Allison Henderson
>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Hugh Dickins<hughd@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> We've seen no response to this, so Cc'ing Ted and linux-kernel,
>>> and I'll fill in some more detail below.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Curt Wohlgemuth wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It appears that there's a bug with this patch:
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>> commit 02fac1297eb3f471a27368271aadd285548297b0
>>>> Author: Allison Henderson<achender@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Tue Sep 6 21:53:01 2011 -0400
>>>>
>>>> ext4: fix partial page writes
>>>> ...
>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Hugh Dickins found a bug with some nasty testing and lockdep that
>>>
>>> It's the tmpfs swapping test that I've been running, with variations,
>>> for years. System booted with mem=700M and 1.5G swap, two repetitious
>>> make -j20 kernel builds (of a 2.6.24 kernel: I stuck with that because
>>> the balance of built to unbuilt source grows smaller with later kernels),
>>> one directly in a tmpfs (irrelevant in this case, except for the added
>>> pressure it generates), the other in a 1k-block ext2 (that I drive with
>>> ext4's CONFIG_EXT4_USE_FOR_EXT23) on /dev/loop0 on a 450MB tmpfs file.
>>>
>>> The first oops I got was indeed down in lockdep, but I've since seen
>>> crashes from the same cause without lockdep configured in. I've not
>>> bothered to write down the stacks, beyond noting ext4_da_write_end()'s
>>> call to ext4_discard_partial_page_buffers_no_lock() in them, since the
>>> code there is clearly at fault as Curt describes.
>>>
>>>> crashed in ext4_da_write_end(), and after looking at the code with
>>>> him, it appears that the call to
>>>> ext4_discard_partial_page_buffers_no_lock() in this routine is
>>>> manipulating an unlocked, and possibly non-existent page:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>> ...
>>>> ret2 = generic_write_end(file, mapping, pos, len, copied,
>>>> page, fsdata);
>>>>
>>>> page_len = PAGE_CACHE_SIZE -
>>>> ((pos + copied - 1)& (PAGE_CACHE_SIZE - 1));
>>>>
>>>> if (page_len> 0) {
>>>> ret = ext4_discard_partial_page_buffers_no_lock(handle,
>>>> inode, page, pos + copied - 1, page_len,
>>>> EXT4_DISCARD_PARTIAL_PG_ZERO_UNMAPPED);
>>>> }
>>>> ...
>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Note that generic_write_end() will unlock and release the page before
>>>> it returns.
>>>
>>> Exactly. And clearly the loop-on-tmpfs aspect of the test is
>>> irrelevant, except in generating more pressure to trigger it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've no good answer for how to fix this properly, but I wanted to let
>>>> Allison know about this, if she hadn't already. I looked but didn't
>>>> see any related email on the linux-ext4 list for this problem.
>>>
>>> There was a second problem I was seeing, more elusive and much harder
>>> to attribute: occasionally the build on ext2 would fail with errors
>>> from ld (almost always of the kind "In function `no symbol': multiple
>>> definition of `no symbol'" and "Warning: size of symbol `' changed":
>>> I don't know if there's anything to be deduced from that). I took
>>> these to indicate an error in filesystem or loop or tmpfs or swap.
>>>
>>> First suspect was loop changes from hch in 3.2-rc1, but backing those
>>> out made no difference. I thought I was facing a week's bisection
>>> (since it would need at least a day to conclude any stage good), but
>>> took a gamble on backing out *both* parts of 02fac1297eb3: page_len
>>> additions to ext4_da_write_begin() as well as page_len additions to
>>> ext4_da_write_end().
>>>
>>> That gamble paid off: the test then showed no problems in several
>>> days running on two machines. So, both parts of 02fac1297eb3 are
>>> bad, but it's not so easy to see what's wrong with the write_begin.
>>>
>>> My *guess* is that the partial page fixes have interfered with the
>>> subtle page-dirty buffer-dirty protocol in some way, which manifests
>>> only under memory pressure.
>>>
>>> It's conceivable that loop and tmpfs and swap play a part in this
>>> further error, but I don't think so: I have no evidence for that,
>>> and no such problem was seen before 3.2-rc1.
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> I wanted to find you an easier way to reproduce the problem, so I
>>> tried fsx (I'm still using a pretty old fsx, no fallocate or punch
>>> hole), run in ext2 on a kernel booted with mem=700M. Sorry, I did
>>> this a week ago, then didn't find time to write it up, and failed to
>>> note when my ext2 was in /dev/loop0 and when it was directly on disk.
>>>
>>> fsx foo -q -c 100 -l 100000000&
>>> while :
>>> do # memory hog mmaps and touches each page of 800MB private area
>>> swapout 800
>>> done
>>>
>>> I did not reproduce either problem above with that. Instead I found
>>> that backing out 02fac1297eb3 made fsx on 3.2-rc1 fail in a few minutes.
>>> But leaving 02fac1297eb3 in, fsx still failed in 20 minutes or an hour.
>>> On 3.1, fsx failed in a few minutes. On 3.0, fsx failed in half an hour.
>>> On 2.6.39, fsx failed in a few minutes. I had to go back to 2.6.38 for
>>> fsx to run successfully under memory pressure for more than two hours.
>>>
>>> It looks as if ext4 testing has not been running fsx under memory
>>> pressure recently. And although I didn't reproduce my main problems
>>> that way, it could well be that getting fsx to run reliably again
>>> under memory pressure will be the way to fix those problems.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hugh
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