On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 13:19 +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> Hello Colin,
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Colin Ian King
> <colin.king@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 11:38 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 08:50:44AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> >> > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Mel Gorman <mgorman@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:58:59PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> >> > >> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Mel Gorman <mgorman@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > >> > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 02:04:00PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> >> > >> >> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:21 PM, James Bottomley
> >> > >> >> <James.Bottomley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > >> >> > On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 19:27 +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> >> > >> >> >> (2011/05/13 23:03), Mel Gorman wrote:
> >> > >> >> >> > Under constant allocation pressure, kswapd can be in the situation where
> >> > >> >> >> > sleeping_prematurely() will always return true even if kswapd has been
> >> > >> >> >> > running a long time. Check if kswapd needs to be scheduled.
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman<mgorman@xxxxxxx>
> >> > >> >> >> > ---
> >> > >> >> >> > mm/vmscan.c | 4 ++++
> >> > >> >> >> > 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> >> > >> >> >> > index af24d1e..4d24828 100644
> >> > >> >> >> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> >> > >> >> >> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> >> > >> >> >> > @@ -2251,6 +2251,10 @@ static bool sleeping_prematurely(pg_data_t *pgdat, int order, long remaining,
> >> > >> >> >> > unsigned long balanced = 0;
> >> > >> >> >> > bool all_zones_ok = true;
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> > + /* If kswapd has been running too long, just sleep */
> >> > >> >> >> > + if (need_resched())
> >> > >> >> >> > + return false;
> >> > >> >> >> > +
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> Hmm... I don't like this patch so much. because this code does
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> - don't sleep if kswapd got context switch at shrink_inactive_list
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > This isn't entirely true: need_resched() will be false, so we'll follow
> >> > >> >> > the normal path for determining whether to sleep or not, in effect
> >> > >> >> > leaving the current behaviour unchanged.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> - sleep if kswapd didn't
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > This also isn't entirely true: whether need_resched() is true at this
> >> > >> >> > point depends on a whole lot more that whether we did a context switch
> >> > >> >> > in shrink_inactive. It mostly depends on how long we've been running
> >> > >> >> > without giving up the CPU. Generally that will mean we've been round
> >> > >> >> > the shrinker loop hundreds to thousands of times without sleeping.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> It seems to be semi random behavior.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Well, we have to do something. Chris Mason first suspected the hang was
> >> > >> >> > a kswapd rescheduling problem a while ago. We tried putting
> >> > >> >> > cond_rescheds() in several places in the vmscan code, but to no avail.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Is it a result of test with patch of Hannes(ie, !pgdat_balanced)?
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> If it isn't, it would be nop regardless of putting cond_reshed at vmscan.c.
> >> > >> >> Because, although we complete zone balancing, kswapd doesn't sleep as
> >> > >> >> pgdat_balance returns wrong result. And at last VM calls
> >> > >> >> balance_pgdat. In this case, balance_pgdat returns without any work as
> >> > >> >> kswap couldn't find zones which have not enough free pages and goto
> >> > >> >> out. kswapd could repeat this work infinitely. So you don't have a
> >> > >> >> chance to call cond_resched.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> But if your test was with Hanne's patch, I am very curious how come
> >> > >> >> kswapd consumes CPU a lot.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> > The need_resched() in sleeping_prematurely() seems to be about the best
> >> > >> >> > option. The other option might be just to put a cond_resched() in
> >> > >> >> > kswapd_try_to_sleep(), but that will really have about the same effect.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> I don't oppose it but before that, I think we have to know why kswapd
> >> > >> >> consumes CPU a lot although we applied Hannes' patch.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Because it's still possible for processes to allocate pages at the same
> >> > >> > rate kswapd is freeing them leading to a situation where kswapd does not
> >> > >> > consider the zone balanced for prolonged periods of time.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> We have cond_resched in shrink_page_list, shrink_slab and balance_pgdat.
> >> > >> So I think kswapd can be scheduled out although it's scheduled in
> >> > >> after a short time as task scheduled also need page reclaim. Although
> >> > >> all task in system need reclaim, kswapd cpu 99% consumption is a
> >> > >> natural result, I think.
> >> > >> Do I miss something?
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > Lets see;
> >> > >
> >> > > shrink_page_list() only applies if inactive pages were isolated
> >> > > which in turn may not happen if all_unreclaimable is set in
> >> > > shrink_zones(). If for whatver reason, all_unreclaimable is
> >> > > set on all zones, we can miss calling cond_resched().
> >> > >
> >> > > shrink_slab only applies if we are reclaiming slab pages. If the first
> >> > > shrinker returns -1, we do not call cond_resched(). If that
> >> > > first shrinker is dcache and __GFP_FS is not set, direct
> >> > > reclaimers will not shrink at all. However, if there are
> >> > > enough of them running or if one of the other shrinkers
> >> > > is running for a very long time, kswapd could be starved
> >> > > acquiring the shrinker_rwsem and never reaching the
> >> > > cond_resched().
> >> >
> >> > Don't we have to move cond_resched?
> >> >
> >> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> >> > index 292582c..633e761 100644
> >> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> >> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> >> > @@ -231,8 +231,10 @@ unsigned long shrink_slab(struct shrink_control *shrink,
> >> > if (scanned == 0)
> >> > scanned = SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX;
> >> >
> >> > - if (!down_read_trylock(&shrinker_rwsem))
> >> > - return 1; /* Assume we'll be able to shrink next time */
> >> > + if (!down_read_trylock(&shrinker_rwsem)) {
> >> > + ret = 1;
> >> > + goto out; /* Assume we'll be able to shrink next time */
> >> > + }
> >> >
> >> > list_for_each_entry(shrinker, &shrinker_list, list) {
> >> > unsigned long long delta;
> >> > @@ -280,12 +282,14 @@ unsigned long shrink_slab(struct shrink_control *shrink,
> >> > count_vm_events(SLABS_SCANNED, this_scan);
> >> > total_scan -= this_scan;
> >> >
> >> > - cond_resched();
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > shrinker->nr += total_scan;
> >> > + cond_resched();
> >> > }
> >> > up_read(&shrinker_rwsem);
> >> > +out:
> >> > + cond_resched();
> >> > return ret;
> >> > }
> >> >
> >>
> >> This makes some sense for the exit path but if one or more of the
> >> shrinkers takes a very long time without sleeping (extremely long
> >> list searches for example) then kswapd will not call cond_resched()
> >> between shrinkers and still consume a lot of CPU.
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > > balance_pgdat() only calls cond_resched if the zones are not
> >> > > balanced. For a high-order allocation that is balanced, it
> >> > > checks order-0 again. During that window, order-0 might have
> >> > > become unbalanced so it loops again for order-0 and returns
> >> > > that was reclaiming for order-0 to kswapd(). It can then find
> >> > > that a caller has rewoken kswapd for a high-order and re-enters
> >> > > balance_pgdat() without ever have called cond_resched().
> >> >
> >> > If kswapd reclaims order-o followed by high order, it would have a
> >> > chance to call cond_resched in shrink_page_list. But if all zones are
> >> > all_unreclaimable is set, balance_pgdat could return any work. Okay.
> >> > It does make sense.
> >> > By your scenario, someone wakes up kswapd with higher order, again.
> >> > So re-enters balance_pgdat without ever have called cond_resched.
> >> > But if someone wakes up higher order again, we can't have a chance to
> >> > call kswapd_try_to_sleep. So your patch effect would be nop, too.
> >> >
> >> > It would be better to put cond_resched after balance_pgdat?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Which will leave kswapd runnable instead of going to sleep but
> >> guarantees a scheduling point. Lets see if the problem is that
> >> cond_resched is being missed although if this was the case then patch
> >> 4 would truly be a no-op but Colin has already reported that patch 1 on
> >> its own didn't fix his problem. If the problem is sandybridge-specific
> >> where kswapd remains runnable and consuming large amounts of CPU in
> >> turbo mode then we know that there are other cond_resched() decisions
> >> that will need to be revisited.
> >>
> >> Colin or James, would you be willing to test with patch 1 from this
> >> series and Minchan's patch below? Thanks.
> >
> > This works OK fine. Ran 250 test cycles for about 2 hours.
>
> Thanks for the testing!.
> I would like to know exact patch for you to apply.
> My modification of inserting cond_resched is two.
>
> 1) shrink_slab function
> 2) kswapd right after balance_pgdat.
>
> 1) or 2) ?
> Or
> Both?
>
I just followed Mel's request, so, patch 1 from the series and *just*
the following:
>Colin or James, would you be willing to test with patch 1 from this
>series and Minchan's patch below? Thanks.
>
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 292582c..61c45d0 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -2753,6 +2753,7 @@ static int kswapd(void *p)
> if (!ret) {
> trace_mm_vmscan_kswapd_wake(pgdat->node_id,
order);
> order = balance_pgdat(pgdat, order,
&classzone_idx);
> + cond_resched();
> }
> }
> return 0;
Colin
> Thanks
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