Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 01:15:49PM +0100, Michal Novotny wrote: >> I don't really know if I see your point but the thing here is that there >> was no way to open a file directly (ie. using O_DIRECT). The direct >> write support has been added only to make it possible to use both read >> and write directly. The main reason to create this patch was to add >> direct read support and flush capability won't help me at all. I am >> working in Red Hat, Virtualization team on Xen so I am really not that >> much familiar with file systems but what I needed was an option to read >> the data directly (using O_DIRECT) in e2fsprogs. One bug was about >> pygrub (Python version of GRUB of Xen PV guests that is internally using >> e2fsprogs functionality to access data on ext2/3/4 partition to boot the >> PV guests) uses outdated/cached data so some modifications were >> necessary to open everything directly... > > So to get things staigt: you're using e2fsprogs to manipulate a life > filesystem and thing using O_DIRECT saves your ass? I think you need to > rething your model of operation fundamentally in that case. > Christoph - It's my understanding that nobody is doing concurrent access. If the host reads the block device via pygrub to boot the guest, the guest while running updates the same device when installing a new kernel (either through the fs, or by writing to the bdev; probably the former...), and then the guest shuts down - is there something which will sync the host's cache (cached from the prior read) with the updates from the guest? I don't know nearly enough about how the virt IO goes ... But if access is sequential between host & guest, I'd hope that this would all just work. If that is all supposed to work, then maybe the description of the data flow (as Ric asked for) is not correct. -Eric -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html