On Thursday 03 September 2009 09:14:43 jim owens wrote: > Rob Landley wrote: > > I think he understands he was clueless too, that's why he investigated > > the failure and wrote it up for posterity. > > > >> And Ric said do not stigmatize whole classes of A) devices, B) raid, > >> and C) filesystems with "Pavel says...". > > > > I don't care what "Pavel says", so you can leave the ad hominem at the > > door, thanks. > > See, this is exactly the problem we have with all the proposed > documentation. The reader (you) did not get what the writer (me) > was trying to say. That does not say either of us was wrong in > what we thought was meant, simply that we did not communicate. That's why I've mostly stopped bothering with this thread. I could respond to Ric Wheeler's latest (what does write barriers have to do with whether or not a multi-sector stripe is guaranteed to be atomically updated during a panic or power failure?) but there's just no point. The LWN article on the topic is out, and incomplete as it is I expect it's the best documentation anybody will actually _read_. Rob -- Latency is more important than throughput. It's that simple. - Linus Torvalds -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html