On Tue 28-07-09 18:41:42, Sylvain Rochet wrote: > Hi, > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 03:52:26PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote: > > On Tue 28-07-09 13:27:15, Sylvain Rochet wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 05:42:53PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote: > > > > On Sat 25-07-09 17:17:52, Sylvain Rochet wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you still see the corruption with 2.6.30 kernel? > > > > > > > > > > Not upgraded yet, we'll give a try. > > > > > > Done, now featuring 2.6.30.3 ;) > > > > OK, drop me an email if you will see corruption also with this kernel. > > Lets move out the corrupted directory ;) > > root@bazooka:/data/web/ed/90/48/walotux.walon.org/htdocs/tmp/cache/e# rm -- * .ok > rm: cannot remove `spip%3Farticle19.f8740dca': Input/output error > root@bazooka:/data/web/ed/90/48/walotux.walon.org/htdocs/tmp/cache/e# cd .. > root@bazooka:/data/web/ed/90/48/walotux.walon.org/htdocs/tmp/cache# mv e/ /data/lost+found/wooops Actually, leaving that file in the filesystem can potentially lead to strange effects because eventually the inode "spip%3Farticle19.f8740dca" points to gets reallocated and then you can get e.g. a hardlinked directory. On the other hand having it lost+found should be safe enough. > > > > This is probably the misleading output from ext3_iget(). It should give > > > > you EIO in the latest kernel. > > > > > > root@bazooka:/data/web/ed/90/48/walotux.walon.org/htdocs/tmp/cache/e# cat spip%3Farticle19.f8740dca > > > cat: spip%3Farticle19.f8740dca: Input/output error > > > > > > It has much more sense now. We thought the problem was around NFS due > > > the the previous error message, actually this is probably not the best > > > looking path. > > > > Yes, EIO makes more sence. I think the problem is NFS connected anyway > > though :). But I don't have a clue how it can happen yet. Maybe I can try > > adding some low-cost debugging checks if you'd be willing to run such > > kernel... > > Without any problem, we have 24/7/365 physical access and we don't need > to provide high-availability services. Cool, I'll try to cook up something then. > Anyway, the data hosted aren't that important, there is little or even > no need for strict confidentiality, so we will be happy to provide ssh > access to whom would like to look deeper into this issue. I don't need to go that far (at least for now) but thanks for the offer. > > I'm adding to CC linux-nfs just in case someone has an idea. > > > > > > Ah, OK, here's the problem. The directory points to a file which is > > > > obviously deleted (note the "Links: 0"). All the content of the inode seems > > > > to indicate that the file was correctly deleted (you might check that the > > > > corresponding bit in the bitmap is cleared via: "icheck 88541562"). > > > > > > root@bazooka:~# debugfs /dev/md10 > > > debugfs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006) > > > debugfs: icheck 88541562 > > > Block Inode number > > > 88541562 <block not found> > > > > Ah, wrong debugfs command. I should have written: > > testi <88541562> > > debugfs: testi <88541562> > Inode 88541562 is not in use Yes, again this confirms that the inode was just correctly deleted. But somehow a pointer to it remained in the directory. > > > > The question is how it could happen the directory still points to the > > > > inode. Really strange. It looks as if we've lost a write to the directory > > > > but I don't see how. Are there any suspitious kernel messages in this case? > > > > > > There were nothing for a while, but since the reboot there are some > > > about this inode: > > > > > > EXT3-fs error (device md10): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 88541562 > > > > Yes, that's to be expected given the corruption any NFS error messages? > > There are some error messages on NFS clients, however they are quite old. > > Apr 19 15:38:21 gin kernel: NFS: Buggy server - nlink == 0! > May 3 20:00:52 gin kernel: NFS: Buggy server - nlink == 0! > May 3 23:24:03 gin kernel: NFS: Buggy server - nlink == 0! > May 7 11:40:57 gin kernel: NFS: Buggy server - nlink == 0! > May 7 14:41:02 gin kernel: NFS: Buggy server - nlink == 0! > May 26 11:10:42 cognac kernel: NFS: Buggy server - nlink == 0! > May 26 11:13:28 cognac kernel: NFS: Buggy server - nlink == 0! > May 26 12:34:39 cognac kernel: NFS: Buggy server - nlink == 0! > May 26 12:39:43 cognac kernel: NFS: Buggy server - nlink == 0! > > This is obviously related to the corruption. Yes, this is a consequence of the bug - somebody deleted an inode because i_nlink dropped down to 0 but the inode was in fact still referenced. Honza -- Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx> SUSE Labs, CR -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html