On Jul 23, 2009 20:23 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:43:47PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: > > > 1) In ext4_mb_normalize_request(), if the inode that we are allocating > > > does not have any open file descriptors for write (i.e., it's already > > > closed and we're allocating via delalloc) _and_ the inode was > > > previously opened with O_CREAT and without O_APPEND (checked via a > > > flag in EXT4_I(inode)), then do not normalize the size to a power of > > > two, but rather to the filesystem blocksize. > > > > I'm sort of woefully ignorant of a lot of the mballoc stuff. > > > > When you say once a file is written that's probably the final size... do > > you mean when writes are done and it's closed, or when the first write > > to the file is complete? > > > > I think an awful lot of normal cases write to a file in sub-file-sized > > chunks (think mp3 or flac encoding, file downloading, etc). > > I meant when the writes are done and the files are closed; hence my > proposal that we do this do #1 above only if there are no open file > descriptors for write. That is, if the file can be written and closed > by the userspace process before any delayed allocation blocks are > attempted to be written by the filesystem, we can probably safely > assume that the file won't grown in size later on. Right, this is a reasonable default I think. > > Also, I get the !O_APPEND test, but is O_CREAT necessary? I wonder how > > much of a hint that really gives us. > > Well, it probably should be O_CREAT || O_TRUNC. The basic idea here is > to distinguish between a file which gets appended to via syslog, or > via a mail delivery program that writes 4k of data to the end of a > mail spool file. In some cases, such as the mail delivery program, it > might not use O_APPEND, but instead it might lock the file, seek to > end of the file, and then right the 4k worth of e-mail. So if the > file wasn't freshly created (or truncated) at the last open, maybe we > should use a more aggressive preallocation --- and in the case of > /var/mail spool delivery, perhaps the preallocation should persist > beyond the file getting closed. (In the future we might want to have > some hueristics where if we notice that the pattern of file writes is > a repeated open, write-causing-block-allocation, close, maybe we > should do some kind of block reservation style scheme while the > filesystem is mounted and the inode stays in the inode cache.) I think you are on the right track with the !O_TRUNC check. Namely, any file which is a non-zero size and gets an extending write at a non-zero offset should probably get some persistent preallocation (fallocate). Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Dilger Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html