* Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Quite frankly, the fact that I can see _seconds_ of latencies > > with a really good SSD is not acceptable. The fact that it is by > > design is even less so. > > Agree, multi-second latencies is not acceptable. btw., just to insert some hard data: usability studies place the acceptance threshold for delays to around 300 milliseconds. If the computer does not 'respond' (in a real or a fake, visible or audible way) to their input within 0.3 seconds they get annoyed emotionally. It does not matter how complex it is for the kernel to solve this problem, it does not matter how far away and difficult to access the data is. If we are not absolutely latency centric in Linux, if we spuriously delay apps that do supposedly simple-looking things the user _will_ get annoyed and _will_ pick another OS. All things considered it is certainly a combined kernel and app problem space to get there, but not being completely aware of its importance in the kernel kills any chance of us ever having a long-term solution. Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
