Hi Ted, Many years ago we had a discussion about whether or not the . and .. directory entries had to be physically present in htree, and I remember the conclusion was that they had to be, but I forget the argument and lost track of the email thread. I think the VFS will happily supply the . and .. entries to getdents on its own. So what was the issue? Something about telldir? This is in relation to implementing a cleaner successor to htree that could end up being useful to Ext4 and Lustre as well as Tux3. See "phtree" here: http://tux3.org/design.html Regards, Daniel p.s. Wow, you still have your MIT email. There must be a war story. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html