Ted, Did some more testing before replying. Have two linux operating systems: Both were setup identically, i.e, formatted with flex_bg & meta_bg. Tune2fs used to enable uninit_bg. Ordered data mode. Grub used to pass boot parameter of rootflags=commit=15. Fstab mount options of noatime,nodiratime,journal_async_commit. Slackware 12.1--this one uses its BSD style startup scripts. No problems whatsoever with any of the snapshots including the newest from 30 June 2008/2219hrs. Gentoo --this is the system I am having trouble with. It will boot the snapshot from 062508/0019hrs fine. Everything works fine here including my script that updates the portage/metadata trees, copies them to another partition setup identically with ext4dev, i.e. flex_bg, meta_bg & uninit_bg, then creates a tarball. All of the snapshots after the 062508 timestamp through the 062708/2353hrs. snapshot would segfault running this script. (Looking for a digital camera, that uses flash media that windows or linux will recognize so I can save and post the jpeg image) Starting with today's snapshots rebased against 2.6.26-rc8 kernel a new problem surfaced, and the old segfault issues disappeared. That is, I could run my script without any problems. My Gentoo uses an updated baselayout/OpenRC start configuration. It has a /lib/rc folder as opposed to var/lib/init.d, containing several subfolders, such as /lib/rc/init.d which cache dependencies and make for a very fast boot and shutdown. With today's snapshots I get one clean start, then I get errors where the network interface eth0 does not initialize on startup but can manually be pulled in by "dhcpcd eth0". If I delete the contents of /lib/rc/init.d on the next restart the network interface initializes properly. If I roll back to the 062508 kernel snapshot, this new problem goes away. I tried removing journal_async_commit from fstab mount options without any difference. I was also passing rootflags=commit=15 during bootup with grub. I removed that parameter changing back to the default 5 second commit interval without any improvement. This new startup style uses parallel service starts. I changed back to series starting without any improvement. I even tried switching from ordered data mode to writeback mode without success. So if I haven't thoroughly confused you or put you to sleep, to summarize: Slackware loves all the snapshots. Gentoo was fine through 062508/00119hrs. No problems. From 062608/0042hrs - 062708/2353 snapshots boot sequence was fine, but segfaulting running my portage/metadata backup script (lots of small files). Today's updates rebased against 2.6.26-rc8 are NOT segfaulting running the backup script, but seem to be corrupting the /lib/rc/init.d/database files after the first start. I am willing to bet that Gentoo on the old baselayout/Non open-rc startup up scripts would have no problems ala Slackware, but it's curious everything was fine through the 062508/0019GMT snapshot. It seems that once delalloc was brought back in with ordered data mode problems started to arise. I tried to roll back the baselayout v2 to the older version 1.12, but I broke the os and had to quickly reinstall using a recent tarball. It's the only explanation why Gentoo is having problems, but Slackware is not. And now that today with the latest rc-8 snapshots the initialization of devices during startup is getting fubared, I am certain the Baselayout2/open-rc-2.5 does not like the latest iterations of the ext4-patch-queue kernel. Hope this expose sheds some light on things. Thanks again, Gary -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html