On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 13:59 -0500, Josef Bacik wrote: > On Tuesday 05 February 2008 12:27:31 pm Jan Kara wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Sorry for replying a bit late but I'm currently falling behind in > > maling-list reading... > > > > > The way jbd tries to determine if there is enough space left on the > > > journal in order to start a new transaction is looking at the space left > > > in the journal and the space needed for the committing transaction, which > > > is 1/4 of the journal + the number of t_outstanding_credits for that > > > transaction. In this case its assumed that t_outstanding_credits > > > accurately represents the number of credits > > > > Yes. > > > > > waiting to be written to the journal, but this sometimes isn't the case. > > > The transaction has two counters for buffers, t_outstanding_credits which > > > is used in conjunction with handles that are added to the transaction, > > > and t_nr_buffers which is only incremented/decremented when buffers are > > > added/removed from the transaction and are actually destined to be > > > journaled. Normally these two > > > > t_nr_buffers actually represents number of buffers on BJ_Metadata list > > and nobody uses it (except for the assertion in > > __journal_temp_unlink_buffer()). t_outstanding_credits is supposed to be > > *the* counter making sure we don't write more than we have credits for. > > > > > counters are the same, however there are cases where the committing > > > transaction can have buffers moved to the next running transaction, for > > > example any buffers on the committing transactions t_reserved list would > > > be moved to the next (running) transaction, and if it had been dirtied in > > > the process it would immediately make it onto the t_updates list, which > > > would increment t_nr_buffers > > > > You probably mean t_buffers list here... > > > > > but not t_outstanding_credits. So you get into this situation where > > > > But which moving and dirtying do you mean? The caller which dirties > > the buffer must make sure that he has acquired enough credits for the > > transaction where the buffer ends up... So if there were not enough > > buffers in the running transaction where we refiled the buffer it is a > > bug in the caller which dirties the buffer. > > > > You know now that you say that I feel like an idiot, you are right the only way > for something to actually end up on that list was if somebody dirtied it and if > they did it would have had to been accounted for at some point on the running > transaction. > > > > t_nr_buffers (the actual number of buffers that are on the transaction) > > > is greater than the number of buffers accounted for via > > > t_outstanding_credits. This presents a problem since as we loop through > > > writting buffers to the journal, we decrement t_outstanding_credits, and > > > if t_nr_buffers is more than t_outstanding_credits then we end up with a > > > negative number for > > > t_outstanding_credits, which means we start saying we need less than 1/4 > > > of the journal for our committing transaction and allow more transactions > > > than we can handle to start, and then bam we fail because > > > journal_next_log_block doesn't have enough free blocks in order to handle > > > the request. This has been tested and fixes the issue (which could not > > > be reproduced by me but several other people could get it to reproduce > > > using postmark), and although I couldn't reproduce the assertion, I could > > > very easily reproduce the situation where t_outstanding_credits was < > > > than t_nr_buffers. > > > > I suppose you see the assertion J_ASSERT(journal->j_free > 1); to > > fail, right? I don't see how your patch could help avoid that assertion. > > You've just removed accounting of t_outstanding_credits which has no > > impact on the real number of free blocks in the journal stored in > > j_free. Anyway, if you can reproduce t_outstanding_credits < > > t_nr_buffers, then there's something fishy. Are you able to reproduce it > > also with a current kernel? > > Thanks for looking into the problem :) > > > > Well my patch helped avoid the assertion because t_outstanding_credits was going > negative therefore we were letting transactions start when we shouldn't be, and > eventually we would end up with too much of the journal in use and we'd assert. > Course I can't reproduce where t_outstanding_credits < t_nr_buffers upstream > (again I feel like an idiot, should have tested that first). Thanks for > looking at this Jan. > > Mingming, would you mind pulling this patch out of the patch queue please since > its wrong? Thanks much, > Sure, done! Mingming - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html