Theodore Tso wrote: > The other approach would be to say, "oh well, the freeze ioctl is > inherently dangerous, and root is allowed to himself in the foot, so > who cares". :-) I tend to agree. Either you need your fs frozen, or not, and if you do, be prepared for the consequences. > But it was this concern which is why ext3 never exported freeze > functionality to userspace, even though other commercial filesystems > do support this. It wasn't that it wasn't considered, but the concern > about whether or not it was sufficiently safe to make available. What's the safety concern; that the admin will forget to unfreeze? > And I do agree that we probably should just implement this in > filesystem independent way, in which case all of the filesystems that > support this already have super_operations functions > write_super_lockfs() and unlockfs(). That's what I was thinking; can't the path to freeze_bdev just be elevated out of dm-ioctl.c to fs/ioctl.c and exposed, such that any filesystem which implements .write_super_lockfs can be frozen? This is essentially what the xfs_freeze userspace does via xfs_ioctl/XFS_IOC_FREEZE - which, AFAIK, isn't used much now that the lvm hooks are in place. I'm also not sure I see the point of the timeout in the original patch; either you are done snapshotting and ready to unfreeze, or you're not; 1, or 2, or 3 seconds doesn't really matter. When you're done, you're done, and you can only unfreeze then. Shouldn't this be done programmatically, and not with some pre-determined timeout? -Eric - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html