Re: [RFC PATCH net-next 0/3] Allow bridge to function in non-promisc mode

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On 03/07/2013 12:13 PM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:35:37 -0500
Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 03/07/2013 02:19 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
I understand the desire to add more functionality, but in this case it
would introduce lots more problems. STP would break and it doesn't seem to
gain anything that can't be done by other means.

Turning bridge into macvlan seems unnecessary. Combining apples and bananas
doesn't always make a tasty smoothy, sometimes it is just a mess.

Maybe adding a little more to macvlan to do what you want would be simpler.



It's not really a macvlan over the bridge.  I would agree that
particular setup would be a bit odd.  This work enables VMs to manage
their mac addresses and to reduce the load on the host by keeping the
bridge in promisc mode.

Sadly, most kvm network configs still use bridging and have not
transitioned to OVS.  macvlan has some limitations as well and I working
to address those, but there is a desire for non-promisc bridge.  In
this case VMs can manage their mac addresses and can write that data to
the bridge.

STP is not broken as STP uses multicast mac and we set IFF_ALLMULTI thus
continuing to receive and process STP BPDUs.

The one thing that would appear to suffer from this is VLAN reception,
but the bridge does allow vlan config now and that would have to be
configured if VMs wish to use vlans.

I am not changing default operation of the bridge.  Default is still
promisc.  In fact, one can switch back and forth without any network
outages.  This simply adds another mode the the bridge operation.


1. I am not a fan of the added complexity.
2, Don't use sysfs for new API's use netlink instead.

Oh, I had a question for you about this. I am changing the uplink code slightly to pattern more after some of the security features you added (like root_block and bpdu_guard). I makes things simpler. I would really like to provide the sysfs interface, because I checked iproute code and I don't see any netlink implementation of those things.

Would that be more agreeable to you?

Thanks
-vlad

I
3. It depends on the uplink port providing UNICAST filtering which some
    physical devices don't do.




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