hi have a strange problem: on a system with kernel 2.6.11.12 with some additional patches (fc-3 patches and the actual netfilter patch-o-matic) i created a bridge containing 1 interface (eth0). (with stp enabled) (i need this configuration with 1 inserted interface because i bridge together on demand the eth0 with a tap-device created by openvpn). so far so good.. the setup does work as expected, but i always have to ping the device first before i can open some tcp connections to it. without pinging the tcp connection freezes until timeout. in a vmware-environment it's more strange. there i can't open tcp connections at all if i do not ping the device before. is this normal behaviour because the bridge first has to learn the mac-address? i thought before tcp connections arp requests will be sent, too :) ah.. the same behaviour on a system with kernel 2.4.29. bye peter -- :: e n d i a n :: open source - open minds :: peter warasin :: http://www.endian.it :: peter@xxxxxxxxx