On Tuesday, February 08, 2011, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 12:05:40AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Monday, February 07, 2011, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 11:00:03PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 07, 2011, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 10:15:59PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, February 07, 2011, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but some people seem very keen on removing the pointers to the PM > > > > > > > ops entirely when CONFIG_PM is disabled which means that you end up with > > > > > > > varying idioms for what you do with the PM ops as stuff gets ifdefed > > > > > > > out. Then again I'm not sure anything would make those people any > > > > > > > happier. > > > > > > > > > > > > I really think we should do things that makes sense rather that worry about > > > > > > who's going to like or dislike it (except for Linus maybe, but he tends to like > > > > > > things that make sense anyway). At this point I think the change I suggested > > > > > > makes sense, because it (a) simplifies things and (b) follows the quite common > > > > > > practice which is to make PM callbacks depend on CONFIG_PM. > > > > > > > > > > Many people make these callback dependent on PM not because it makes > > > > > much sense but because it is possible to do so. However, aside of > > > > > randconfig compile testing, nobody really tests drivers that implement > > > > > PM in the !CONFIG_PM setting. > > > > > > > > That I can agree with, but I'm not sure whether it is an argument against > > > > the patch I've just posted or for it? > > > > > > More of an observation for your (b) justification. I'd probably force > > > CONFIG_PM to always 'y'w while we weeding references to it from > > > drivers... > > > > We simply can't force CONFIG_PM to 'y', because some platforms want it to be 'n'. > > > > Again, want or need? It would be nice to know answer to this question. I _think_ the answer is "want", which doesn't change a lot, because I'm not going to convince people to stop wanting things. :-) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-embedded" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html