On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Mark Brown <broonie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> One of the things we're facing is Android, which has >> its userspace in plain Java JNI at the end of this link: >> http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=blob;f=s >> ervices/jni/com_android_server_BatteryService.cpp;h=8e7cadc6b680fc420d34 >> 1faa094c71922946fdab;hb=HEAD > > Something word wrapped that link but I think I found the same code. > >> If you browse down to line 275 you can see it parse the sysfs >> attribute "capacity", then this propagates up to the battery >> status indicator on *all* Android phones out there. So if >> you want to run Android unmodified, this is what you need to >> provide. They are effectively using the power sysfs as >> their hardware abstraction layer in this case. > > Oh dear. Using the power sysfs as the hardware abstraction seems > perfectly reasonable but assuming that a given battery driver is going > to have this level of information doesn't match up with an awful lot of > actual charger hardware. My main concern here is that battery > performance monitoring has no pressing need to be in kernel and that > pushing it into the kernel creates a barrier to implementing more > advanced schemes in userspace, which is especially serious given how > involved this needs to be in order to be accurate. We should tidy up the userspace side to have better abstraction for this. On a number of devices we do obtain all the information necessary from the kernel driver (or, in some cases battery monitoring on the baseband side that the kernel driver chats with). On other devices we don't (Motorola Droid, for example uses a userspace battery daemon). >> Note: I'm not claiming that Android is doing it right or that >> we can't modify this code or so, it's just that this is the way >> a few million Android devices out there are actually doing it. > > I don't think the existing Android devices are much of an issue here, > it's not as though end users have the ability modify the firmware on > them (modulo the fairly small number of ADP devices). This is an issue > for people producing new devices who are already going to be doing some > development to get the kernel up and running on their hardware. My preference, from an Android point of view, would be to make sure we have some reasonable userspace abstraction and provide a default implementation that will do the right thing with an intelligent battery driver (our usual design for inhouse work). Then alternative implementations can be plugged in, should that not be sufficient. Brian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-embedded" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
